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Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by throw16180339 »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #112
throw16180339 wrote: post #106

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> Am I the only one who can't imagine a good outcome from all this? Here's a possible good outcome. 1. The board fires Matt, stops chasing windmills, and settles with WP Engine. I'm kind of surprised they haven't done so already - it's all downhill from here. He's either lying to them, not listening, or they're drinking the Kool Aid. 2. Matt steps down from the WordPress Foundation and transfers ownership of wordpres…

I can see those, but I don't imagine there's even a fair chance of them happening. In my mind, shortly after the WordCamp US things should have leveled out. Someone should have pulled Matt aside and said, "OK, you vented. Pissed all over The Community who showed up, but you vented. Let's get this back on the rails..." It's possible that was said. But Matt's listening skills aren't good and lately have gotten worse. T…

CEOs can get away with a lot if they're successful; Elon Musk is a good example. That only goes so far, though. If he wins the trademark lawsuit, he can probably do whatever he wants. If he loses, there's a shareholder lawsuit, or he continues escalating then at some point he'll be removed. One can only hope.

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by Shekelphile »

ChocolateGod wrote: post #85
Shekelphile wrote: post #49

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He's never really been a good person or savvy in general and IMO people put him on pedestal before recently. This is the guy who bought tumblr and hasn't done anything of merit with it after all.

I thought Tumblr given its 'content' is beyond any redemption.

Not saying turning it back into a porn platform would have been the best move in the long-term but I think it would have at least made more sense than whatever he's done with it since acquiring it.

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by beezle »

ValentineC wrote: post #128
beezle wrote: post #126

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What's a good alternative to say the Wordpress personal plan? (note: its a goodness of heart type thing for others so low cost is important)

WordPress dot org is free if self-hosted. WordPress dot com has a free plan too. You should be more specific about what you're trying to achieve.

A fan blog that can get a lot of comments over a short span of time.

Any alternative must have a hosted option, I'm not playing admin for something that already takes up a lot of my time, as I said out of the goodness of my heart and wallet.

The best I can say for wordpress is that myself, other contributors and our commenters tolerate it, though quite often it leans towards hate it. I've yet to hear anyone say they love it hence the ask.

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by moehm »

chx wrote: post #121
moehm wrote: post #116

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I considered switching to Drupal. For which use cases do you think Drupal will shine? And for which not?

I would rather answer the first one :) Multilingual is built into Drupal and as far as I am aware, it's a plugin for Wordpress. Complex permissions/access control is another area where Drupal is much stronger. And overall, the more complex the requirements are , the more likely Drupal will be the answer. Wordpress leans very heavily towards "here, install this, it'll work, you can tweak it and that's about it". Drupa…

Thanks, that helped a lot.

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by ValentineC »

beezle wrote: post #134
ValentineC wrote: post #128

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WordPress dot org is free if self-hosted. WordPress dot com has a free plan too. You should be more specific about what you're trying to achieve.

A fan blog that can get a lot of comments over a short span of time. Any alternative must have a hosted option, I'm not playing admin for something that already takes up a lot of my time, as I said out of the goodness of my heart and wallet. The best I can say for wordpress is that myself, other contributors and our commenters tolerate it, though quite often it leans towards hate it. I've yet to hear anyone say they…

Static site generator like Astro/Eleventy/Hugo and Disqus, maybe.

Take your pick of commenting platforms from this 2021 thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28258319

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by toomuchtodo »

wise_young_man wrote: post #111
throw16180339 wrote: post #109

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It's a sad, sad day when you find yourself rooting for private equity vs. an open source company.

Last I checked Automattic is a privately held for profit company. One could argue that it’s a private equity too. Just using different words to twist a narrative.

This is not the same. Private equity extracts as an investment, Automattic is an ecosystem participant (that happens to be privately held) that actively contributes to the community. That doesn’t mean Matt hasn’t taken things too far (I leave that to be determined by civil courts and the Wordpress community, no dog in the fight myself), but there is a difference, and it is very important to clearly delineate who is receiving benefit for value realized economically.

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by mardifoufs »

FireBeyond wrote: post #124
getcrunk wrote: post #56

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Matt being a poor steward of gpl is by definition not a systemic issue … unless ur claim is that many people in positions like him do what he does which is in turn caused by invariant factors? The systemic issue is companies the world over not giving their fair share back in terms of contributing to foss. I might agree with most of your points, I’m just trying to get people to realize there’s the local issue of Matt/…

WPE literally spends several hundred thousand dollars a year contributing to WP events. And then they get banned from those events while the WP Foundation keeps the checks. What absolute leeches they are.

Hundreds of thousands on events is nothing. The fact that this is the most repeated example of them contributing to WordPress just proves the point that they don't actually do much. Their entire business is based around wrapping WP and reselling it. That they can manage to spend a few hundred K's on what is basically marketing (visibility at WordPress events) is not surprising. Now, how much do they contribute to the actual WordPress codebase?

(And I'm saying this as someone who dislikes WordPress in general, in the sense that I'm not a super invested Automattic user or something. It's just weird how the conversation shifted to portraying Automattic as a leach or a bad maintainer and WPengine as a victim)

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