What an incompetent government where the goal is to pad some DoJ lawyer's resume instead of benefiting consumers or the economy
US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case
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Re: US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case
#132There's side effect benefit of big kahuna companies mainly on the significant breakthrough and game changing research output because these excellent researchers are paid handsome money compared to conventional universities or research institutions. We saw this with AT&T Bell research labs with their inventions of transistor and Unix, among others. The same thing happened with Google research with (arguably) deep lear…
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Re: US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case
#133HN is a special place but among the average folk, I get why 90% of people use google. I'm no google fan, but it still baffles me how bad the alternatives still are. Especially with so many companies scraping the whole web for AI data, and so many GPUs chugging on that data. I suppose they are all focused on replacing the concept of search results with LLM prose. Ironically bing is down at the moment https://downdetec…
So yeah, I find DDG perfectly adequate.
Re: US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no point in chasing a high GDP when it results in a materially worse world. The point of a society isn't to make the numbers go up. If a monopoly is super efficient at generating some nebulous concept of value by creating and operating the world's largest surveillance system and actively using it to sell influence over people's attention and habits then the only sensible thing to do is to dismantle it.
> results in a materially worse world. Please explain how Google has created a materially worse world
Re: US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no point in chasing a high GDP when it results in a materially worse world. The point of a society isn't to make the numbers go up. If a monopoly is super efficient at generating some nebulous concept of value by creating and operating the world's largest surveillance system and actively using it to sell influence over people's attention and habits then the only sensible thing to do is to dismantle it.
> results in a materially worse world. Please explain how Google has created a materially worse world
Re: US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case
#136> Finally, the filing said Google’s dominance over search text ads needed to be addressed by lowering barriers to would-be rivals or licensing its ad feed to others, independently from search results.
What Google has is a monopoly on search (which is bad), but I don't think having a monopoly for advertising on your own property is a bad thing. If anything, from a privacy perspective, I'd rather that only one party (the publisher, in this case Google) gets to see my searches, rather than the publisher and an ecosystem of low-scrupules ad platforms.
For sure I might be biased as I used to work on Google Ads, but I also know quite a bit about how the sausage is made and how the industry is. That being said, I really don't see how "licensing the ad feed" would do any good for end users.
Re: US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case
#137There's side effect benefit of big kahuna companies mainly on the significant breakthrough and game changing research output because these excellent researchers are paid handsome money compared to conventional universities or research institutions. We saw this with AT&T Bell research labs with their inventions of transistor and Unix, among others. The same thing happened with Google research with (arguably) deep lear…
The split of ATT killed Unix2, so we spent 30 years re-implementing Linux+k8s. These things that existed in Unix2 & Plan9 were re-implemented by Plan9 employees in Google Labs.
Re: US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case
#138Hilariously shortsighted. Big Tech companies have been a GDP-doubling runaway success for the US economy. It would be like if we here in Denmark started breaking up Novo Nordisk. Our economists would probably do a public lynching of any government official who suggested doing that. However as a European I can't help but welcoming the US shooting themselves in the foot like this. Something tells me we will see more of…
Re: US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case
#139Re: US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no point in chasing a high GDP when it results in a materially worse world. The point of a society isn't to make the numbers go up. If a monopoly is super efficient at generating some nebulous concept of value by creating and operating the world's largest surveillance system and actively using it to sell influence over people's attention and habits then the only sensible thing to do is to dismantle it.
> results in a materially worse world. Please explain how Google has created a materially worse world