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Is the world really running out of sand?

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Re: Is the world really running out of sand?

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Indeed! Then there is all kinds of specialty sands - say, when replacing the sand in our local athletics union long jump pits, I learned that one should use sand from river beds (as opposed to sand crushed at a plant) as the river sand is much less likely to cause abrasions, seeing as all the sharp edges have been worn away as the sand has been shifted back and forth by the river current... Sand is not just sand.

The best night's sleep I ever had was on the sand of a turn in a dry creek bed, after a very long day's hike. It must have had a big rock underneath that caught the day's warmth and kept me toasty all night. And the sand itself felt like floating on a cloud. It was a magical place. And one of the stupidest I ever slept in due to the risk of flash floods.

I was reading your first sentence with apprehension as my first thought was flash floods!

Glad you made it out safe, with a story to boot.

Re: Is the world really running out of sand?

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post #5

Ironically, we just hit an entirely different "sand catastrophe" - https://mastodon.social/@mimsical/113232531800424706 > the crucibles used to create ingots of silicon which become microchips are made from an ultra-pure quartz sand -- and 70% of the world's supply comes from just one place in North Carolina [Spruce Pine]

Spruce Pine doesn't use sand, they mine large quartz crystals out of pegmatites.

Re: Is the world really running out of sand?

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Oh, cool. One of the most common glass batches (raw materials melted to make glass) used by artists is "Spruce Pine Batch".

Wonder if it’s the same stuff or if glass people get a different bin.

The quartz is crushed and sorted for purity so yes it'd be a different bin than the stuff going to make fused quartz for semiconductors.

Re: Is the world really running out of sand?

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post #2

Bonus points for articles that start with a tldr and don't try to bury the lead

FYI it's "bury the lede," a lede being the introductory section of a news story.

That's a pretentious, anachronistic affectation - the phrase predates the use of "lede".

Re: Is the world really running out of sand?

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One thing that surprised me when I started running a tugboat business: A country can be both an exporter and importer of sand. Sand of one type goes from the U.S. to The Bahamas to be used in concrete. Sand of another type goes from The Bahamas to the U.S. to be used in aquariums. Specialty sands go to make regulation volleyball courts.

Trade is a technology that turns concrete sand into aquarium sand.

Re: Is the world really running out of sand?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best night's sleep I ever had was on the sand of a turn in a dry creek bed, after a very long day's hike. It must have had a big rock underneath that caught the day's warmth and kept me toasty all night. And the sand itself felt like floating on a cloud. It was a magical place. And one of the stupidest I ever slept in due to the risk of flash floods.

I was reading your first sentence with apprehension as my first thought was flash floods! Glad you made it out safe, with a story to boot.

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Re: Is the world really running out of sand?

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"Concrete blows most other materials out of the water." In fact, according to Wikipedia, concrete is the "second-most-used substance in the world after water" - I was on the Concrete Wikipedia article while I read this as I realised it was a thing I have never thought about despite its ubiquity. Amazing how that can happen.

What about eg air, wood? Used by mass or volume or?

It seems likely to me that both concrete and plastic are used in greater mass and greater volume than wood.

Re: Is the world really running out of sand?

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed! Then there is all kinds of specialty sands - say, when replacing the sand in our local athletics union long jump pits, I learned that one should use sand from river beds (as opposed to sand crushed at a plant) as the river sand is much less likely to cause abrasions, seeing as all the sharp edges have been worn away as the sand has been shifted back and forth by the river current... Sand is not just sand.

The best night's sleep I ever had was on the sand of a turn in a dry creek bed, after a very long day's hike. It must have had a big rock underneath that caught the day's warmth and kept me toasty all night. And the sand itself felt like floating on a cloud. It was a magical place. And one of the stupidest I ever slept in due to the risk of flash floods.

One of the best meals I ever ate was a store bought can of chiii cooked over a tiny camp burner after a long hiking through the Grand Canyon. Sometimes it's the simple things during the most exceptional situations that can cement such a strong memory... It did for me anyways.

Re: Is the world really running out of sand?

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post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best night's sleep I ever had was on the sand of a turn in a dry creek bed, after a very long day's hike. It must have had a big rock underneath that caught the day's warmth and kept me toasty all night. And the sand itself felt like floating on a cloud. It was a magical place. And one of the stupidest I ever slept in due to the risk of flash floods.

One of the best meals I ever ate was a store bought can of chiii cooked over a tiny camp burner after a long hiking through the Grand Canyon. Sometimes it's the simple things during the most exceptional situations that can cement such a strong memory... It did for me anyways.

Yes, but. I had some of the most memorably bad sleeps on the same trip. Like wrapped around a tree trunk on a slope in a blizzard. Not magical one bit.

Re: Is the world really running out of sand?

#140
post #81

We fools here in Germany sometimes _pay_ to get rid of excess electricity when it's very sunny and windy. How about having some rock crushing machines that instead use that cheap electricity to make more sand? Thanks for the puns, too.

One of the proposals for exploiting zero (or negative) electricity prices is storage of the heat at high temperature in refractory solids. This would be used by people who normally burn a fuel for the heat. Instead, they can preheat air and reduce the fuel needed (perhaps reduced to zero).

Firebrick works up to about 1000 C. A spinoff from MIT is using special nickel-doped chromium oxide (chromia) bricks, which can work up to 1800 C, about the temperature of a natural gas-air flame. These bricks are electrically conductive and can act as their own heating elements.

https://www.fastcompany.com/91129126/these-bricks-conduct-el...

https://electrifiedthermal.com/

https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/130800

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