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Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

#131

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Isn't ASI > AGI?

Is the S here referring to Sentient or Specialised?

Super(human).

Old-school AI was already specialised. Nobody can agree what "sentient" is, and if sentience includes a capacity to feel emotions/qualia etc. then we'd only willingly choose that over non-sentient for brain uploading not "mere" assistants.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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I think the much more likely scenario than product roadmap concerns is that Murati (and Ilya for that matter) took their shot to remove Sam, lost, and in an effort to collectively retain billion$ of enterprise value have been playing nice, but were never seriously going to work together again after the failed coup.

Why is it so hard to just accept this and be transparent about motives ? It's fair to say 'we were not aligned with Sam, we tried an ouster, didn't pan out so the best thing for us to do is to leave and let Sam pursue his path", which the entirely company has vouched for. Instead, you get to see grey area after grey area.

“the entire company has vouched for” is inconsistent with what we see now. Low/mid ranking employees were obviously tweeting in alignment with their management and by request.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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My take is that Altman recognizes LLM winter is coming and is trying to entrench.

I don’t think we’re gonna see a winter. LLMs are here to stay. Natural language interfaces are great. Embeddings are incredibly useful. They just won’t be the hottest thing since smartphones.

I just made a (IMHO) cool test with OpenAI/Linux/TCL-TK:

"write a TCL/tk script file that is a "frontend" to the ls command: It should provide checkboxes and dropdowns for the different options available in bash ls and a button "RUN" to run the configured ls command. The output of the ls command should be displayed in a Text box inside the interface. The script must be runnable using tclsh"

It didn't get it right the first time (for some reason wants to put a `mainloop` instruction) but after several corrections I got an ugly but pretty functional UI.

Imagine a Linux Distro that uses some kind of LLM generated interfaces to make its power more accessible. Maybe even "self healing".

LLMs don't stop amazing me personally.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

#134
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I don’t think we’re gonna see a winter. LLMs are here to stay. Natural language interfaces are great. Embeddings are incredibly useful. They just won’t be the hottest thing since smartphones.

It’s a glorified grammar corrector?

TIL Math Olympiad problems are simple grammar exercises.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.

I feel like this is stating the obvious - but i guess not to many - but a probabilistic syllable generator is not intelligence, it does not understand us, it cannot reason, it can only generate the next syllable

It makes us feel understood in the same ways John Edward used to in daytime tv, its all about how language makes us feel

true AGI...unfortunately we're not even close

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

#137

I mean no disrespect, but to me, she always felt like an interim hire for her current role, like someone filling a position because there wasn't anyone else.

Yes, for the CEO role, but she has been with the company for more than six years, two and a half as a CTO.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

#138
post #7

It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.

What top executives write in these farewell letters often has little to do with their actual reasons for leaving.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

#139
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the much more likely scenario than product roadmap concerns is that Murati (and Ilya for that matter) took their shot to remove Sam, lost, and in an effort to collectively retain billion$ of enterprise value have been playing nice, but were never seriously going to work together again after the failed coup.

"When you strike at a king, you must kill him." — Emerson

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