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Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Post by nickthegreek » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 1:48 PM UTC

zlwaterfield wrote: post #100

lhousa wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rookie question: the openAPI endpoint costs extra right? Not something that comes with chatGPT or chatGPT+.

Correct but I'm going to loom into a locally running LLM so it would be free.

Look into allowing it to connect to either a LM Studio endpoint or ollama please.

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Post by nickthegreek » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 1:50 PM UTC

miguelaeh wrote: post #105

Szpadel wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, but gpt-4o-mini costs very little so you probably will spend well under $1/month

I don't think the point here should be the cost, but the fact that you are sending everything you write to OpenAI to train their models on your information. The option of a local model allows you to preserve the privacy of what you write. I like that.

Openai does not train models on data that comes in from the API.

https://openai.com/policies/business-terms/

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Post by lawlessone » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 1:59 PM UTC

sharemywin wrote: post #130

Technetium wrote: post #125

They proclaim "privacy-respecting" but all your keystrokes go to OpenAI. Horrific and genuinely upsetting. Edit: The author replied to another comment that there is an intent to add local AI. If that is the plan, then fix the wording until it can actually be considered privacy-respecting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41579144

settings for opting out of training etc. for OpenAI https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7730893-data-controls-fa...

Be surprised if thats honored

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Post by ofou » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 2:07 PM UTC

rafram wrote: post #10

ofou wrote: post #8

Loved it. I'd love to use something like "right-click, fix grammar" under iOS—not just rewrite. I want to keep my own voice, just with minimal conformant grammar as a second-language speaker.

AFAIK Apple Intelligence will include essentially that.

let's hope the rumors are real

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 2:10 PM UTC

sharemywin wrote: post #130

Technetium wrote: post #125

They proclaim "privacy-respecting" but all your keystrokes go to OpenAI. Horrific and genuinely upsetting. Edit: The author replied to another comment that there is an intent to add local AI. If that is the plan, then fix the wording until it can actually be considered privacy-respecting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41579144

settings for opting out of training etc. for OpenAI https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7730893-data-controls-fa...

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Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Post by ziddoap » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 2:12 PM UTC

Privacy.md needs to be updated.

>If you have any questions about this privacy policy, please contact us at [your contact information].

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Post by charlie0 » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 2:14 PM UTC

Technetium wrote: post #125

They proclaim "privacy-respecting" but all your keystrokes go to OpenAI. Horrific and genuinely upsetting. Edit: The author replied to another comment that there is an intent to add local AI. If that is the plan, then fix the wording until it can actually be considered privacy-respecting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41579144

Lol, this was my second thought immediately after my first, which was one of excitement. Hope the author does add a option for local. Wonder how that would work as a Chrome extension. Doesn't seem like a good idea for extensions to be accessing local resources though.

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Post by chilipepperhott » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 2:41 PM UTC

While Scramble doesn't seem to respect your privacy, a project I've been working on does.

Meet Harper https://github.com/elijah-potter/harper

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Post by insane_dreamer » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 2:43 PM UTC

polemic wrote: post #21

Seems a stretch to call it open source.

Disagree. The fact that it can call another closed-source service doesn't mean that this tool itself is not open source.

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Post by aDyslecticCrow » Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 2:43 PM UTC

Grammarly is a lifesaver for my day-to-day writing. All it does is correct spelling and punctuation or give rephrase suggestions. But Grammarly does it so unreasonably well that nothing else compares.

Grammarly's core functionality is not even LLM-based; it's older than that. Recently, they've crammed in some LLM features that I don't care a snoot about compared to its core functionality.

This tool, like any other "Grammarly alternative," is just another GPT wrapper to rewrite my text in an overly verbose and soulless way. I was hoping for a halfway-decent spelling corrector.