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Re: Apple Hearing Study shares preliminary insights on tinnitus

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Post by knowitnone »

Aaronstotle wrote: post #83
ljf wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This! Said it before here but also consider than right next to each ear drum is a huge artery. When you run you might hear your heart beating in your ears, but generally we totally tune it out. But it is always there. Once I realised that I could also tune out tinnitus, I did just that - but a big part of that was just not thinking about it/dwelling on it. Been nearly 20 years now and tinnitus rarely troubles me, in…

I always wondered why I could hear my heart beating so hard when I would go on a run, especially pronounced wearing ear-buds.

stronger heart contractions and increased dilation during exercise therefore ear innards picks up on this?

Re: Apple Hearing Study shares preliminary insights on tinnitus

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Post by bitwize »

I have eye tinnitus: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_snow_syndrome

It's so subtle that I don't really notice it in my day to day life, and with corrective lenses I experience almost no vision problems.

But God damn it, there was this one ophthalmologist I had. He became convinced that I was at high risk for glaucoma and kept subjecting me to visual field tests to assess my peripheral vision. The machine he used for such tests was so ancient it still took 5 1/4" floppy disks, and it worked by shining lights of various brightness onto a plain canvas. You were supposed to stare at a point and click a button held in the hand (like a Jeopardy! buzzer) when you saw one of these lights.

Well, this exercise presents pretty much the exact conditions for my visual snow to put me at a disadvantage, and that meant I had bizarre, inconsistent test results with strange gaps in my visual field. Of course, that only further convinced my ophthalmologist that I was a glaucoma risk, and when I told him about the visual snow, he just looked at me like I was from space and ordered more tests.

I was so glad to find a nice, 34-year-old ophthalmologist some years later who used the air puff machine during the standard eye exam to measure eyeball pressure and found I was nowhere near having glaucoma. No visual field tests, no visual snow confounding the results.

Re: Apple Hearing Study shares preliminary insights on tinnitus

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Post by knowitnone »

jfoutz wrote: post #78
ljf wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This! Said it before here but also consider than right next to each ear drum is a huge artery. When you run you might hear your heart beating in your ears, but generally we totally tune it out. But it is always there. Once I realised that I could also tune out tinnitus, I did just that - but a big part of that was just not thinking about it/dwelling on it. Been nearly 20 years now and tinnitus rarely troubles me, in…

Decades ago I read about NASA's silent room, with the big wood spikes on the walls. All you can hear is your heartbeat and this high pitched whine. NASA figured out the high pitched whine was the nervous system (like, your brain). I've got some mild tinnitus. I always wonder if it's my brain listening to itself. That little recursive loop is enough to distract me, even if it's not true.

but that would mean everyone should have tinnitus but not everyone does. I certainly never had it until midlife.

Re: Apple Hearing Study shares preliminary insights on tinnitus

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Post by knowitnone »

RobMurray wrote: post #113
extr wrote: post #5

I have mild tinnitus and the best advice I've ever read on the internet for it is: Stop reading. Don't look up information about tinnitus. Don't think about it. If you happen to notice it, try to distract yourself immediately. There maybe legitimate hearing damage but for the psychological aspect, the more you think about it the worse it becomes. I think I saw a quora answer somewhere where the doctor said "Nobody co…

Exactly. I can hear a loud high pitched tone right now. I wasn't consciously aware of it today before seeing this article.

studies have shown seeing money makes you happy!

Re: Apple Hearing Study shares preliminary insights on tinnitus

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Post by etiennemarcel »

OutOfHere wrote: post #76

This is anecdotal info, but if you're suffering severe tinnitus to the point where it cannot be ignored, meaning ≥8/10, a short course of memantine for a few weeks could bring it down by about 2/10, making it more tolerable. The course may have to be repeated as needed about once a year. There probably exist other milder medicines that too could help make it less severe, e.g. mild SSRIs, but their effect usually goes…

Is there any science out there to support it? Gabapentin is also supposed to be a miracle cure but it only works (anecdotally) for very few people and the studies are inconclusive.

Re: Apple Hearing Study shares preliminary insights on tinnitus

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Post by knowitnone »

xoxxala wrote: post #61

I can ignore my tinnitus during the day fairly well. It just doesn't bother me that much. I've never really used earpods, no longer use over the hear headphones, and keep the volume down on my speakers. But at night it's a completely different story. With a quiet house and nothing to distract, it was causing a huge problem in my ability to get rest. The solution was to play Spotify all night long at a low volume. The…

yes, I listen to audiobooks and fall asleep that way.

Re: Apple Hearing Study shares preliminary insights on tinnitus

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Post by codr7 »

voisin wrote: post #102
jfoutz wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Decades ago I read about NASA's silent room, with the big wood spikes on the walls. All you can hear is your heartbeat and this high pitched whine. NASA figured out the high pitched whine was the nervous system (like, your brain). I've got some mild tinnitus. I always wonder if it's my brain listening to itself. That little recursive loop is enough to distract me, even if it's not true.

> NASA figured out the high pitched whine was the nervous system (like, your brain). I’d love to know more about this if you have any info to share.

Nada Yoga might give some information as well, it's not a new idea.

Re: Apple Hearing Study shares preliminary insights on tinnitus

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las_balas_tres wrote: post #117

I have had tinnitus since I was about 20 and I am now 50. Its always been there until last year when I had a slight reprieve for about 10 seconds. I was sick, the sickest I had been for years. I came down a with bad flu and was on a cocktail of drugs... antibiotics, painkillers etc. So there I was, lying in bed staring out the window when suddenly everything went peaceful and very quite. I then realised that i could…

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Re: Apple Hearing Study shares preliminary insights on tinnitus

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Post by jfoutz »

voisin wrote: post #102
jfoutz wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Decades ago I read about NASA's silent room, with the big wood spikes on the walls. All you can hear is your heartbeat and this high pitched whine. NASA figured out the high pitched whine was the nervous system (like, your brain). I've got some mild tinnitus. I always wonder if it's my brain listening to itself. That little recursive loop is enough to distract me, even if it's not true.

> NASA figured out the high pitched whine was the nervous system (like, your brain). I’d love to know more about this if you have any info to share.

I wish I could find a better source. My memory is of a wired article, on paper. This touches on the "hiss" from the nervous system - https://www.americanscientist.org/article/quietest-places-in...

Re: Apple Hearing Study shares preliminary insights on tinnitus

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Post by Sammi »

knowitnone wrote: post #133
jfoutz wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Decades ago I read about NASA's silent room, with the big wood spikes on the walls. All you can hear is your heartbeat and this high pitched whine. NASA figured out the high pitched whine was the nervous system (like, your brain). I've got some mild tinnitus. I always wonder if it's my brain listening to itself. That little recursive loop is enough to distract me, even if it's not true.

but that would mean everyone should have tinnitus but not everyone does. I certainly never had it until midlife.

Maybe the cognitive ability to tune it out is what's failing. Old worn down brain issues.
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