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Re: Kagi Assistant

#131

Post by kelnos »

traceroute66 wrote: post #44

I recently tried Kagi and I struggled to see the value. For many queries side-by-side with Startpage it delivered the same results word-for-word (sure you get a few sponsored links top-3 of Startpage but its no big deal to scroll past those). For other things, it was just plain annoying, e.g. "newest $type restaurants in $large_city" half the results on the first page were from 10 years ago (e.g. dated 2014). I mean…

> sure you get a few sponsored links top-3 of Startpage but its no big deal to scroll past those

I get that you don't mind, but for me, I would find that intolerable.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#132

Post by jm4 »

dubme1 wrote: post #45

Paid Kagi user here. I REALLY wish Kagi would focus on it's core selling point: search. Building a search engine is hard enough. I use Kagi Search everyday and I am mostly happy with it but the product has a lot of room for improvment. Stop launching new products (browser, summarizer, gpt, assistant) while your core product is still behind the competition in many areas.

Why should they try to reach feature parity with some other engine that has more developers and more money? That's a losing strategy. They are running their own race and I think it's great. Kagi assistant is incredibly useful and there's no one else doing it like Kagi.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#133

Post by ddingus »

__jonas wrote: post #128
cube2222 wrote: post #14

To repeat myself from a recent HN thread: I've been using Kagi for a while (almost two years now!) and it's been nothing but excellent! Lenses are very useful (Reddit lens is on every second search), and I personally really like the AI features they are working on. The new more advanced assistant which is able to do searches, which can also be constrained to lenses, and lets you pick an arbitrary model, is excellent,…

I really wanted to like Kagi, I'm onboard with paying for search, but I've had had a big issue with its speed when doing the trial to be honest, am I the only one bothered by this? Perhaps this is because I'm in Europe and it's faster in the US? A search request to Kagi seems to take around two seconds for me (shows as ~1s in the Kagi UI), it just feels really unpleasant compared to Google, I'm used to firing of a co…

Interesting!!

I'm not slamming you, or your experience or preferences. That said, I find very little difference between 2 seconds and one second or less than that.

Search taking a small fragment of time just isn't a big deal and I search sometimes many times per day.

What is the gain for you that makes 2 seconds an exception to using the product?

Just curious. Peace, live well.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#134

Post by veb »

__jonas wrote: post #128
cube2222 wrote: post #14

To repeat myself from a recent HN thread: I've been using Kagi for a while (almost two years now!) and it's been nothing but excellent! Lenses are very useful (Reddit lens is on every second search), and I personally really like the AI features they are working on. The new more advanced assistant which is able to do searches, which can also be constrained to lenses, and lets you pick an arbitrary model, is excellent,…

I really wanted to like Kagi, I'm onboard with paying for search, but I've had had a big issue with its speed when doing the trial to be honest, am I the only one bothered by this? Perhaps this is because I'm in Europe and it's faster in the US? A search request to Kagi seems to take around two seconds for me (shows as ~1s in the Kagi UI), it just feels really unpleasant compared to Google, I'm used to firing of a co…

How bizarre. I'm not in the US either - I'm in New Zealand, and have been using Kagi since their beta I think and currently pay for Ultimate, and to me it's a lot faster than Google.

The other day I was using someone else's computer and used Google, and my goodness, the results were just awful and ... bloated?

Re: Kagi Assistant

#135

Post by Lazare »

__jonas wrote: post #128
cube2222 wrote: post #14

To repeat myself from a recent HN thread: I've been using Kagi for a while (almost two years now!) and it's been nothing but excellent! Lenses are very useful (Reddit lens is on every second search), and I personally really like the AI features they are working on. The new more advanced assistant which is able to do searches, which can also be constrained to lenses, and lets you pick an arbitrary model, is excellent,…

I really wanted to like Kagi, I'm onboard with paying for search, but I've had had a big issue with its speed when doing the trial to be honest, am I the only one bothered by this? Perhaps this is because I'm in Europe and it's faster in the US? A search request to Kagi seems to take around two seconds for me (shows as ~1s in the Kagi UI), it just feels really unpleasant compared to Google, I'm used to firing of a co…

I'm using it from NZ and Australia and found it blazing fast. No lower than Google certainly! I wonder if it'd be worth reaching out to Kagi support.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#136

Post by darreninthenet »

__jonas wrote: post #128
cube2222 wrote: post #14

To repeat myself from a recent HN thread: I've been using Kagi for a while (almost two years now!) and it's been nothing but excellent! Lenses are very useful (Reddit lens is on every second search), and I personally really like the AI features they are working on. The new more advanced assistant which is able to do searches, which can also be constrained to lenses, and lets you pick an arbitrary model, is excellent,…

I really wanted to like Kagi, I'm onboard with paying for search, but I've had had a big issue with its speed when doing the trial to be honest, am I the only one bothered by this? Perhaps this is because I'm in Europe and it's faster in the US? A search request to Kagi seems to take around two seconds for me (shows as ~1s in the Kagi UI), it just feels really unpleasant compared to Google, I'm used to firing of a co…

UK user here, no speed issues at all

Re: Kagi Assistant

#137

Post by __jonas »

ddingus wrote: post #133
__jonas wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really wanted to like Kagi, I'm onboard with paying for search, but I've had had a big issue with its speed when doing the trial to be honest, am I the only one bothered by this? Perhaps this is because I'm in Europe and it's faster in the US? A search request to Kagi seems to take around two seconds for me (shows as ~1s in the Kagi UI), it just feels really unpleasant compared to Google, I'm used to firing of a co…

Interesting!! I'm not slamming you, or your experience or preferences. That said, I find very little difference between 2 seconds and one second or less than that. Search taking a small fragment of time just isn't a big deal and I search sometimes many times per day. What is the gain for you that makes 2 seconds an exception to using the product? Just curious. Peace, live well.

I feel like search is probably one of the most common things I do with a computer, I would say I often search many times per minute if I’m actively looking into some topic or issue.

Because it’s such a common action for me, it feels like such a strong regression to go 2/3 times slower than before.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#138

Post by NelsonMinar »

LLMs + search are really useful. I use phind.com regularly for this, it is remarkably good for enhanced search queries. I use Claude a lot for more general knowledge stuff but its inability to provide references or do web search like stuff holds it back.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#139

Post by nunez »

This is really cool. I'm very against AI in everything, so I probably won't use this, but I'm glad that they are making it an opt-in feature and that my $10/month plan doesn't go up to support it.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#140

Post by dcchambers »

jacekm wrote: post #124
dcchambers wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they'll offer a "bring your own API key" option some day. I imagine the intersect between paid Kagi users and paid LLM users is pretty high, and many people probably don't want to double-dip on LLM spending.

Highly unlikely, that would undermine their business model. For the same reason they don't offer pay as you go plan. Vlad explicitly stated somewhere that they are able to make money only because many people do not use their plans to the fullest.

I mean folks would still be paying for an account, just not at the ultimate level. And since they offload the actual LLM processing to a third party, not much overhead cost there.
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