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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Text-based hivemind social media like Twitter auto-excludes likes of Trump and Musk. They don't generate text in the Internet sub-language. Twitter users judge, cancel and ignore liberals and conservatives equally hard, I think largely by presentation.

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Twitter was given a famously sweet deal by the city to occupy that troubled stretch of Market St. In the time I lived nearby (until the pandemic) the area never really improved. San Francisco has an odd tolerance for the tent communities, no just that it largely allows them, but that it allows them in and around the busiest and most publicly-utilized transit hubs and the city center.

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It’s been a while since we had sf offices, but back when we did sf had a pretty aggressive additional payroll tax and gross receipts taxes. I’d imagine this is likely a factor in the decision. I know for a while they were waiving some of these taxes for companies who set up offices in certain parts of the city. E.g. zendesk got a big tax break for its market street location near the tenderloin. As for commutes, I’d b…

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You might be right when it comes to employees, but definitely not when it comes to users. There's a lot of people using X, and the vast, vast majority of them don't care much for Musk or actively dislike him. THe problem with X is that it is (and always was) sort of an echo chamber, there's no average X user, everybody sees very different content based on what they follow. The average HNer probably won't notice the h…

Im there for finance news and compiler tech. It’s the only platform where I don’t feel like I am force fed Hollywood drama. You just have to follow people you respect instead of people you find amusing.

even for niche topics i only recall "influencers" left there by the time i left.

i guess it's the new Facebook, social network for old people who will not open a different app ever, for some small groups?

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I don't know US commutes, or US geography too well. But it seems these two locations are about 45mins-1hr drive from each other. Where do folks actually live in those areas? Is it that a 30min drive north to San Fran becomes a 30min drive south to San Jose?

If they relocate engineers to Palo Alto, that's halfway between San Francisco and San Jose. And a lot of engineers (not necessarily at X but in general in Silicon Valley) live in the suburbs between SF and SJ already. It might be mildly less convenient for some, but also mildly more convenient for many.

Yeah, unless you live in Oakland, this probably will be irrelevant to everyone who lives north of Palo Alto.

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> bans conservatives for "wrong think" Which "wrong think" specifically got people banned? Because the vast majority of conservatives on the platform did not get banned, so I'm left wondering which exact people banned for what exact reasons you're thinking of. Trump was removed after the Jan 6 assault on the capital for provoking that violence and repeatedly lying to his followers about the election, which, weirdly,…

I remember someone getting banned for a tweet saying "Men are different from women". Not even a conservative person, and a very mild take at that.

See e.g. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/journalist-sues-twitter-...

Getting banned for wrongthink on the old Twitter was a rite of passage, almost every content creator I follow (mostly gaming youtubers, nothing spicy or even controversial) got banned at least once.

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I have him blocked but the CEO has 200 million followers. Even assuming 20% are real people, I'd imagine there's quite a few of those who'd love to work at his company.

Why do you have him blocked, and just not following him?

Not following is for content you don't mind seeing, muting is for annoying friends you can't be screenshotted blocking, and blocking is for content you don't care.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Thats generally the point with sudden disruptive moves - high attrition. Reduce the headcount without having to be in the news for layoffs.

Or the company is just led by a highly erratic narcissist with a track record (across several companies) of not treating his employees well. Build cult, treat like cult members.

I dunno. He seems somewhat consistent. I think people just generally don’t like the things he’s consistent about.

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The difference is that Twitter didn’t ban conservatives for their political views but for violating their terms of service. In Trump’s case that was continued calls for violence and election interference, more than a hypothetical concern after his followers made an unprecedented violent attack on the U.S. electoral process. As you can easily verify, most conservatives were never banned: the people who were banned mad…

And if those "Terms of Service" heavily aligns with left-wing ideology? Do we then finally concede that Twitter did, in fact, target or disproportionately affect non-left-wing users? Is our next point of discussion about whether we can allow such a huge societal discussion/debate tool to be aligned with a pre-defined set of principles that 50% of people don't agree with? Or rather, on a set of principles that we can't find more than 50% consensus on?

Either way, this is just like normal government laws. One of the big criticisms that Libertarians have over laws is that they're not universally enforced, so they end up being selectively enforced, which just means that "those with power" wield the laws against those they don't like. Same goes here with platforms like Twitter. The rules are vague, opaque, and their enforcement is seemingly random and at the whims of some faceless entity behind their enforcement process. If we all knew these supposed "terms of service" and they did, in fact, have very clear rules and guidelines then there would be absolutely no room for conservatives or anyone else to cry about being targeted.

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