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Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

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Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

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> We want people who don’t think about airplanes as a mode of transportation to start flying It really depresses me that in 2024 we have some of the smartest, most privileged people in the world deciding that this is what they’re going to dedicate their life to Shouldn’t we be doing exactly the opposite? Getting people to stop flying

Better than adtech or fintech

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

#132

> We want people who don’t think about airplanes as a mode of transportation to start flying It really depresses me that in 2024 we have some of the smartest, most privileged people in the world deciding that this is what they’re going to dedicate their life to Shouldn’t we be doing exactly the opposite? Getting people to stop flying

Private Pilot here (so obviously biased.)

This is an excellent question to ask.

There are good reasons to fly. Some places in the US are only accessible through flight (I'm looking at you, Alaska.) Some places require insane amounts of time to commute/manage because of a lack of infrastructure. Some common low-flight hour jobs (eg: pipeline monitoring) are only feasible through flight.

There are currently good reasons that most people don't fly. They usually come down to time, money and training (which is time, money and ability.) There is also significant risk (think: along the risk level of riding a motorcycle)

I guarantee that flying will not get so safe and cheap that the average Joe will just start hopping in a plane for a hamburger every other day.

I personally think the things we should be focusing on are making much more efficient GA aircraft. Also, getting rid of 100LL and gasoline would be nice. It's really hard to do though.

As for the smartest and most-privileged people, there are much worse things to devote time to as an engineer. There are also a lot of engineers these days. Don't despair too much :)

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

#133

> We want people who don’t think about airplanes as a mode of transportation to start flying It really depresses me that in 2024 we have some of the smartest, most privileged people in the world deciding that this is what they’re going to dedicate their life to Shouldn’t we be doing exactly the opposite? Getting people to stop flying

Totally, we should all just be creating shareholder value cradle to grave, never go anywhere, and eat ze bugs.

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

#134

> We want people who don’t think about airplanes as a mode of transportation to start flying It really depresses me that in 2024 we have some of the smartest, most privileged people in the world deciding that this is what they’re going to dedicate their life to Shouldn’t we be doing exactly the opposite? Getting people to stop flying

No. What we should be doing is encouraging smart, motivated people to address what they see as problems that they can make actual progress towards solving. As a natural consequence, many of those efforts will be things you find worthwhile and many others you won't.

If you think there's a problem more worthwhile of their efforts, why don't you dedicate your life to it?

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

#135
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This is super great, glad to see you-all up'ing the ante for safety. As you say a good percent of accidents are pilot error based loss of control events ( https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/data/Pages/GeneralAviationDashbo... ). There's a lot be said for getting multiple safety technologies in one package, as you seem to be doing. I'm interested in your approach to certification. I've heard the LSA limits are increasing dra…

I can't speak for what will or won't happen with MOSAIC, but the current proposal bakes in SVO so we (and a lot of other companies) all hope that stays.

Yes, our first product is experimental and has a 51% requirement, but Sling has a great factory build assist program that will help with that. Typically, electrical systems aren't included in a 51% build and Sling builders don't usually touch the avionics (when doing a factory assist), so we hope that stays true.

The things that exist today are good steps in the direction, but we are pushing the boundary further with fly-by-wire, where these is very little innovation.

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

#136

> We want people who don’t think about airplanes as a mode of transportation to start flying It really depresses me that in 2024 we have some of the smartest, most privileged people in the world deciding that this is what they’re going to dedicate their life to Shouldn’t we be doing exactly the opposite? Getting people to stop flying

Came here to say this. Yes. I am sad that YC would even consider this.

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

#137

> In the US, trips that are 50-300 miles are almost all done by car because that distance is too short for commercial airlines and too far for public transportation. A bit off-topic but this is a political problem, not a technical one. Trips of 50-300 miles are certainly within the operating range of fast and efficient rail travel as demonstrated in multiple places around the world outside of the US.

Interestingly I'm hosting my dad near Amsterdam for the week and to get from Sacramento to SFO (from where he flew to AMS) he... flew. Which I guess is logical, but seems insane to me when he lives close to Sacramento Amtrak which actually HAS good, regular service to SFO (via Bart, connecting at Richmond). Even if you build the train some people won't give it a try, sadly. A lot of carbon was spewed in to the air to…

I bet if you and he were travelling together he would do it. I've gotten people to join me on train trips when the option was something different - flying or taking a one hour taxi ride.

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

#138

So basically a GA Airbus. I think this is a pretty cool project, and while it may not achieve the lofty goals you’ve set forth, any improvement in safety is worthwhile. As other commenters have point out though, where this stuff falls short is ultimately still the human. Ok, great… your aircraft won’t stall in Normal Law. However you’ve now lost a generator and a whole FCC and you’re in direct law. The 400 hr pilot h…

This. I liken it to the flawed approaches associated with self driving cars... software handles everything up until the point it can't then asks the user to take over in the last second. Not a great strategy.

As a software engineer and private pilot, I'll take mechanical controls connected to the flight surfaces and my competency as a pilot to risk my own life, rather than turn it over to other software engineers, hoping they get everything right, leaving me with no real connection to the flight control surfaces when the shit hits the fan.

I'd at least have to know what kind of engineering process and change management practices or functional safety procedures are being followed by the company developing this stuff before I'd even consider going for a ride in such a plane.

Re: Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern personal airplane

#140

> We want people who don’t think about airplanes as a mode of transportation to start flying It really depresses me that in 2024 we have some of the smartest, most privileged people in the world deciding that this is what they’re going to dedicate their life to Shouldn’t we be doing exactly the opposite? Getting people to stop flying

How else will people be able to go on independent aerial excursions to watch the ice sheets melt in real time?

Kidding aside, we’re really going to name the company using a homophone of the most famous missing pilot in history?

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