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The Linux audio stack demystified (and more)

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Re: The Linux audio stack demystified (and more)

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Post by erremerre »

freedomben wrote: post #113
erremerre wrote: post #95

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I must be the only unlucky one because my linux approved motherboard Intel DQ77MK with a Realtek ALC892 8-channel for audio kept switching between front and back panel (although nothing was plugged in on front) on Fedora 39 :( . It does work fine on windows.

Actually now that you mention it, I did have a similar problem on one particular motherboard. I don't attribute it to linux though so hadn't thought of it. It turned out to be a hardware issue (with the motherboard) though. The card kept resetting due to too low of input power. I had hoped a BIOS update would fix it, but it didn't. I have had a couple of built-in audio modules die and stop being seen by the kernel on…

The only thing I can say is that it does not happen in windows 10.

Do you have any more information on how can it be diagnosed?

The motherboard it does have the latest bios update.

Re: The Linux audio stack demystified (and more)

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Post by erremerre »

trelane wrote: post #109
erremerre wrote: post #95

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I must be the only unlucky one because my linux approved motherboard Intel DQ77MK with a Realtek ALC892 8-channel for audio kept switching between front and back panel (although nothing was plugged in on front) on Fedora 39 :( . It does work fine on windows.

Did you try OSX on the same hardware?

Unfortunately no, I don't think I have the knowledge to try a hackintosh? Also not very sure if the system would be compatible with it. It is something to try eventually though.

what do you think it will happen?

Re: The Linux audio stack demystified (and more)

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Post by nlpparty »

shmerl wrote: post #15
nlpparty wrote: post #11

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I don't know what Pipewire is as well. I've used Linux daily for 10+ years, but I've never bothered to use Wayland.

Well, time to move with the progress. I've been using KDE Wayland session for several years already.

I use i3-wm. I know that there is Sway but it will require some effort to migrate. Also there are fresh reports that Wayland+Sway have problems with NVidia (even worse I have AMD + NVidia). I'd wait till it gets resolved or my current setup stops working.

Re: The Linux audio stack demystified (and more)

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Post by shmerl »

nlpparty wrote: post #133
shmerl wrote: post #15

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Well, time to move with the progress. I've been using KDE Wayland session for several years already.

I use i3-wm. I know that there is Sway but it will require some effort to migrate. Also there are fresh reports that Wayland+Sway have problems with NVidia (even worse I have AMD + NVidia). I'd wait till it gets resolved or my current setup stops working.

Not personally using tiling set up, but I think KDE has some scripts for KWin that allow doing that. So you can use KDE for that purpose.

Re: The Linux audio stack demystified (and more)

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Post by cowboylowrez »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #110
knorker wrote: post #64

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I think it's fair to say that your experience is extremely atypical. PulseAudio constantly stands out as the most common frustration in all of Linux. systemd is pretty frustrating too, but it's only frustrating the 1% of the time when it breaks (because it means your whole system is broken), whereas the 70% of the time PulseAudio doesn't work, it's more mildly infuriating. For anything except a single audio in and si…

> whereas the 70% of the time PulseAudio doesn't work, it's more mildly infuriating. I have installed Linux on I don't know how many systems at this point. My desktop, my work laptop, other people's work laptops, etc. Audio just worked flawlessly on each and every one. I cannot believe that PulseAudio has issues 70% of the time. There's simply no way I've been that lucky to have never seen an issue.

I get things like pulseaudio deciding only one ear is enough haha but emotionally I'm just grateful that it works at all sometimes since I really like the idea of a linux studio. Reboots help. I use a little bit older Ubuntu Studio, should probably upgrade. Back in the day when I only had alsa, I loved the experience.

Re: The Linux audio stack demystified (and more)

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Post by mannyv »

kmarc wrote: post #24

I hear many complaining (even here) about "the mess" of linux audio. First, in the article, [1] shows in one single diagram where the complexity is coming from; the audio system has to handle a good deal of different hardware on many different systems and also provide extra functionality for multiplexing, network features, wireless headsets and their codecs, etc. All this: open source. Second: linux is the only platf…

It's a mess not because it's complex, it's because of bad design.
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