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Apollo DN10000: Quad CPU/128Mb RAM workstation from 1988 [pdf]

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Would be possible but seems overcomplicated. Why not just "Überpräzisierung"? This is actually in use.

Maybe, haven't heard it IRL though. As opposed to the more vague 'Übergründlich'.

That’s when someone takes ages to e.g. clean something up because they are using way more effort than necessary.

Re: Apollo DN10000: Quad CPU/128Mb RAM workstation from 1988 [pdf]

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Some of the first computer based PCB design work took place with Apollo/Mentor graphics. I'm really curious what the user experience was like but can't find any information.

I would love a video walkthrough of the OS and one of CAD packages by someone proficient with the system, even on an emulator.

Re: Apollo DN10000: Quad CPU/128Mb RAM workstation from 1988 [pdf]

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I assume a 486 was dramatically slower than the Apollo PRISM (which looks reasonably well-designed by today's standards).

It was probably not dramatic if it was slower at all, there is a reason so many of those workstation processors died out in the 90s.

Well, with a performance of ~22-25 MIPS, PRISM@18Mhz was about 2.5 times faster than original 25Mhz 486DX and roughly on par with 1992 486DX2 66Mhz.

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True, but there were wonderful exceptions. For instance, the Mac SE/30 (1989) could take up to 128 megs, and the Amiga 3000 (1990) was designed to allow for even more (although only 16 megs on the motherboard, but 256 meg Zorro III cards were available in 1993). Later, some m68k Macs like the Quadra 605 allowed for 128 meg SIMMs, and the PCI Power Macs really took things to a new level. The Power Mac 9500 could take…

> The Power Mac 9500 could take up to 1.5 gigs of memory in 1995. > It's a shame that no computers really distinguish themselves like that any more, aside from high end server systems. Well, intel mac pro from 2019 could take up to 1.5TB of ram while I would guess standard back then for PCs was 16-32GB at most. So should be comparable (1.5GB vs 16-32MB of ram in 1995)?

in the bracket that intel mac pro from 2019 competed, 1.5TB capability would be about normal. With some supporting more.

Re: Apollo DN10000: Quad CPU/128Mb RAM workstation from 1988 [pdf]

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Even 10-15 years later, multiple CPUs and 128Mb RAM was quite uncommon. How much did this beast cost back in the 80s? Edit: Max configs were up to $250,000 ($663,937.02 today) back then according to this price list: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/apollo/Apollo_Price_List_Jul88....

I'm triggered every time I see things like "$663,937.02 today". I just can't help it. There should be a word for [mindlessly] reporting the results of a calculation to arbitrary precision when only one significant digit of precision is warranted. There probably is such a word in German.

I really love it when this has clearly happened in US children's books. Things like, "ate nearly 551 pounds of food per day!" or similar.

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From 1988 you would watch b/w or 4 colours on PC made for offices being really expensive, and from y2k you could play DivX videos and TV at home. And from 2k-2k1, even under Unix at home too (something unthinkable by 1988) with some nice GNU/Linux distro :D. The technology change from 1988 to 1998 was really huge, much more compared to what you could get since 2010 until today.

You should look up “Commodore Amiga”, it was way more powerful than PC

The 486 and later the Pentium killed it.

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I'm triggered every time I see things like "$663,937.02 today". I just can't help it. There should be a word for [mindlessly] reporting the results of a calculation to arbitrary precision when only one significant digit of precision is warranted. There probably is such a word in German.

You and me both! When I see something like "a blue whale can be nearly 100 feet (30.48m) long", I want to throw a math book at the author. "Nearly 100 feet" is "nearly 30 meters". "About $250K" is "about $660K today" at best.

It's almost like everyone should just adopt the system of units and measurements that makes the most sense and is used by the very, VERY vast majority of the world.

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Dual (50% overclocked) Celerons on a BP6 was a relatively common enthusiast setup in the early 2000s. 128M of RAM was also not a huge amount then.

My friends and I all built BP6 machines. Such a wonderful workstation machine. I donated mine to the PC recycler when I moved in 2005. It still is my favorite beige box unix workstation.

I was too late to the party for the BP6...

I was however lucky enough to be able to get a Tyan Tiger MPX alongside a couple of 'Morgan' core Durons... Can't remember if they were 1.0 or 1.2GHZ... But wow that thing was -nice- on Windows 2000 and held up better than most than other systems I built in that era (Although, in retrospect that may have been because most other builds I did suffered from the capacitor plague...)

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Pentium 2 was released in 1997 and was released with maximum speed of 450 MHZ which could be overclocked much higher.

No Pentium 2 could be overclocked much above ~500MHz due to the way they were all manufactured. 10% is not really much higher.

I vividly remember pushing 233 to 300.
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