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Women who make Samsung semiconductors are striking

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Re: Women who make Samsung semiconductors are striking

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> a deliberately hostile act intended to make this subgroup of workers feel unwelcome in the tech industry

Flagging. Even ignoring the broader context of your post, this comment breaks HN gudelines[1]: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

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Re: Women who make Samsung semiconductors are striking

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> 1. Some workers lose their jobs to automation. > 2. The remaining ones have a weaker negotiation power, as their jobs are on the way out anyway. So companies have even more incentive to abuse them. I wonder what the eventual end game is, when you let everything play out to its logical conclusion. Eventually, business owners will no longer need people at all. They'll own a magical fully-automated factory that mainta…

The end game is that average human becomes a pet. Horses weren't needed and they became pets; same for average human. This can only happen perfectly if the manufacturers eventually start to come after those who are self-reliant, which I believe is in line with the psychology of humans. Funny thing is this is ALSO analogous to what we have done certain animals.

I wonder who decides which humans are needed and which ones are not (whom you call pets) and will it be someone other in the future than who has made those decisions today and in the past?

What exactly will be different in the future from the current situation?

Re: Women who make Samsung semiconductors are striking

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I worked for a giant Korean company (offshore, third party outsource). Their view of workers right is very different from "the west". It was said, among my colleagues at the time, that in our country their main headquarters had a law office exclusively to handle abuse cases quickly. I heard stories of Korean lifting their voices and a case where the chair of a programmer was kicked by a Korean manager because he let…

I'd be pessimistic about a cultural change - look at what happened to the Doctor's strike. The only option is to become an expat and end up perpetuating the same traumas, as Pinoy, Thai, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, Indonesian, etc employees of Korean companies in their countries can attest to. Korean work culture is itself a reflection of Japanese work culture back when SK was Japan's version of Mexico before the 20…

Doctor's strike is much more complicated than the outsider view, because the Korean Medical Association had a very conservative view for the number of seats anyway. It is true that residents are indeed overworking, but that's more like 80 hours per week, not 100 as you have suggested; and established average doctors work even much less---48.1 hours per week in 2020. Resident doctors take such burden because they'll eventually get out of resident positions and most of them will enjoy the occupational leisure, which made doctors one of the most sought occuptations for the current Korean generation.

The imbalance in medical accessibility and quality for urban vs. suburban areas was well known for decades so that the reform itself was very much desired, but the current government did it so ineffectively that they just had to give up after the strike.

Re: Women who make Samsung semiconductors are striking

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> 1. Some workers lose their jobs to automation. > 2. The remaining ones have a weaker negotiation power, as their jobs are on the way out anyway. So companies have even more incentive to abuse them. I wonder what the eventual end game is, when you let everything play out to its logical conclusion. Eventually, business owners will no longer need people at all. They'll own a magical fully-automated factory that mainta…

The richest and most powerful will lobby for universal basic income because it will benefit them at some tipping point, where the masses will need to be subsidized to keep the consumption machine running, maybe?

In a post scarcity society, capitalism dies as will most of the population on Earth. The elite will live in an amazing utopia with AI slaves and like a few million fellow humans.

Eugenics has always been the end game for the monarch class. Capitalism was a stepping stone.

Re: Women who make Samsung semiconductors are striking

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I worked for a giant Korean company (offshore, third party outsource). Their view of workers right is very different from "the west". It was said, among my colleagues at the time, that in our country their main headquarters had a law office exclusively to handle abuse cases quickly. I heard stories of Korean lifting their voices and a case where the chair of a programmer was kicked by a Korean manager because he let…

> There's even a case where this resulted in an air disaster

Lets not forget Sewol disaster 'recovery efforts' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_A8dq2fA5o https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-sinking-of-the-... where no rescue was even attempted before letting President decide (establishing video feed to command center).

Re: Women who make Samsung semiconductors are striking

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Well... yes, for capitalism, that is the endgame. Neo-feudalism to be precise. And unlike the last times where feudalism was overthrown, these days police is often enough on par with the military, and the governments can track us whenever and wherever we want by the tiny little bugs we carry around in our pockets. Call for a revolution or for violent acts online, and a day later the FBI knocks on your door and takes…

>these days police is often enough on par with the military I'm pretty sure this is completely unique to the USA.

And even then it is bullshit. US cops have dogshit training and the majority of them are cowards. Sure they got more guns than cops in other countries, but the population has even more.
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