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Re: Tell HN: your next idea should focus on aged care

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Post by ensocode »

binary132 wrote: post #60

The reality of elder care is that (especially) infirm old folks really need a lot of hard, difficult, unpleasant care that our economic system has made basically impossible for their children and extended families to perform, as would have probably been done in the past. This requirement isn’t going to go away. There will be no cheap, safe, efficient butt-wiping robot, and unmotivated, uninvolved third parties are go…

This, on the other hand also younger people are getting old. Future old people might be much more tech-averse

Re: Tell HN: your next idea should focus on aged care

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Post by blackbaze »

antiatheist wrote: post #112
octopoc wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is true for most cases. However in my family we have special circumstances: because my grandfather is a veteran, my father is paid to take care of him. It is an absolutely phenomenal experience for our family and has brought us all together. If we could enable this again for everyone that would be good for everyone in terms of mental health.

This is available to anyone in Australia, although ~$500-600 a week isn't enough to support the carer and the one they care for in most personal circumstances. https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/carer-payment

Minimum wage by contrast is $915 a week

Re: Tell HN: your next idea should focus on aged care

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Post by blackbaze »

defrost wrote: post #33
chillingeffect wrote: post #3

Yep. Spend an hour with an elderly person trying to do things like change a password, unsub from a mailing list, connect a Roku, look at a digital photo album, etc. Will blow your mind wide open. We basically need an entire tier of easy internet for the elderly.

It's more than just a "tier of easy internet for the elderly" as that alone won't ease the suspicion that something might be going wrong. There's demand for trusted verified handling of regular financial life interactions, bill paying, hiccups from cards being changed and regular direct debits needing resetting, etc. Much like, Chubb (for example) remote monitor home security with liability should one of their employ…

A private network? Separate from the internet? A dedicated device for said network

Re: Tell HN: your next idea should focus on aged care

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Post by nasmorn »

k310 wrote: post #30
chillingeffect wrote: post #3

Yep. Spend an hour with an elderly person trying to do things like change a password, unsub from a mailing list, connect a Roku, look at a digital photo album, etc. Will blow your mind wide open. We basically need an entire tier of easy internet for the elderly.

Indeed, I saw some simplified computers over time but everything "behind" them got crazy complex. I did tech for a living and it's still infuriating at times. Ex got passwords altered. My credit union got ransomwared. For mysterious reasons the "bank by touchtone" worked so I could pay my credit card, but I can't get balances and access via web or app. The point being that problems are wildly varied and changing, let…

When you can just open an applications menu and click every possibly interesting option you are already more proficient in the use of any software than 90% of its daily users. That is the only explanation why I can fix any office worker’s software problems while using a code editor and terminal for 95% of my workday

Re: Tell HN: your next idea should focus on aged care

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Post by bigbassroller »

binary132 wrote: post #60

The reality of elder care is that (especially) infirm old folks really need a lot of hard, difficult, unpleasant care that our economic system has made basically impossible for their children and extended families to perform, as would have probably been done in the past. This requirement isn’t going to go away. There will be no cheap, safe, efficient butt-wiping robot, and unmotivated, uninvolved third parties are go…

Just brand a bidit with a lifting mechanisms

Re: Tell HN: your next idea should focus on aged care

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Post by lazyasciiart »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #86
lazyasciiart wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what context? One person keeping track of all the social workers they are in contact with for personal use?

No, to keep track of consumers of social work for social workers. Think EHR system for social work, for shared provider access for each person in need of care and services, and central tracking for each person of service, care, and resources available and provided. I’m currently tracking with spreadsheets, which is less than ideal.

I think the general term is "case management" - this one is for foster care https://help.binti.com/hc/en-us/articles/20423755272979-Serv..., and salesforce has a package for it https://www.salesforce.org/products/case-management/

When I googled "social work case management CRM" a ton of stuff came up.

Re: Tell HN: your next idea should focus on aged care

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Post by RecycledEle »

binary132 wrote: post #60

The reality of elder care is that (especially) infirm old folks really need a lot of hard, difficult, unpleasant care that our economic system has made basically impossible for their children and extended families to perform, as would have probably been done in the past. This requirement isn’t going to go away. There will be no cheap, safe, efficient butt-wiping robot, and unmotivated, uninvolved third parties are go…

The butt wiping robot may be called a bidet combined with air drying.

Re: Tell HN: your next idea should focus on aged care

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Post by nopmat »

RecycledEle wrote: post #138
binary132 wrote: post #60

The reality of elder care is that (especially) infirm old folks really need a lot of hard, difficult, unpleasant care that our economic system has made basically impossible for their children and extended families to perform, as would have probably been done in the past. This requirement isn’t going to go away. There will be no cheap, safe, efficient butt-wiping robot, and unmotivated, uninvolved third parties are go…

The butt wiping robot may be called a bidet combined with air drying.

Or have a self-cleaning, self-sanitized shower van with lifts and adaptive equipment make the rounds like an ice-cream truck.

Re: Tell HN: your next idea should focus on aged care

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Post by malfist »

binary132 wrote: post #60

The reality of elder care is that (especially) infirm old folks really need a lot of hard, difficult, unpleasant care that our economic system has made basically impossible for their children and extended families to perform, as would have probably been done in the past. This requirement isn’t going to go away. There will be no cheap, safe, efficient butt-wiping robot, and unmotivated, uninvolved third parties are go…

> Technology is not going to make much of a dent in this one.

I'm sure people said the same thing many times before. Agriculture is probably a good example of it, even if you ignore anything before modern times. Do you think after we developed tractors that we would have went on to make automated tractors that run by GPS and can plant, weed and harvest?

Technology can, and does, solve hard problems.

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