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Affinity's Adobe-rivaling creative suite is now free for six months

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> The only one who is confused here is you. You're trying to make it sound like this is somehow a big issue or a dealbreaker, when in fact pretty much no one who does actual work with these programs cares Seriously? You don't feel it's ridiculous to say this when just above I posted links to people begging for this feature on the forums since at least 2017? > You can hate on one application or another I'm not hating…

I think some clarity that has been missing to your point is that this isn't an issue that Affinity can't edit raw photos, but more that if you switched from Lightroom to Affinity you're going to be missing all your edits for all your photos, which makes it a non-starter for anyone who doesn't want to or can't redit all of their RAW files.

Yup, thanks. Hope that clarifies it for anyone who was confused by that.

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Coming from the world of audio software I've always wondered why it seemed like Adobe has such a stranglehold on visual work and nothing really catches up to photoshop or illustrator. In audio there are several big DAWs (digital audio workstations) that I would classify as popular and competent enough for serious work, each of which has artists or producers that have built successful careers around. Yes there are end…

Audio has a few things going for it. 1. It's significantly more standardized and straightforward for data interpretation. MIDI is standard (and OSC sort of fizzled), and audio clips (wav, aiff, whatever) are also very standard. You don't have the issues of color science, and you have a much smaller range of transformations that can be done to an audio clip. 2. A lot of infrastructure is standardized. From hardware in…

This is a great summarize, I'd emphasize that as a result of the items mentioned here, both input (through external MIDI controllers) and output (through VST instruments) are actually cross-DAW, that consistency makes switching DAWs far easier, and makes what any one DAW is best at much narrower.

Re: Affinity's Adobe-rivaling creative suite is now free for six months

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Adobe vs Affinity: Is Photoshop better than Photo? Yes, but not by much. Is Illustrator better than Design? Yes, but not by much. Is there an annoying learning curve? Yes, but not by much. I've put the investment into becoming proficient in Affinity and there's no looking back for me. Adobe's pricing, feature roadmap, and general performance are not even close to being worth 10x the price. If Adobe's suite was 2x, I…

More than a decade ago, Quarxpress got killed by Adobe InDesign because Quark treated their users like garbage and overpriced their software. Adobe should have learned that lesson.

Re: Affinity's Adobe-rivaling creative suite is now free for six months

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Coming from Adobe Lightroom, I found Affinity Photo to be unusable. But I eventually switched from shooting RAW to shooting JPG, and now I just use files straight out of my Fuji cameras. As a busy parent I can't be bothered to edit anymore. I just shoot and post or shoot and print.

Re: Affinity's Adobe-rivaling creative suite is now free for six months

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A loud minority requesting a feature doesn't mean it's a deal-breaker for other users. Clearly the company behind the product agrees, otherwise they would've implemented it.

> A loud minority requesting a feature First, thanks for acknowledging that it's not "just me". That kind of nonsensical hyperbole doesn't help the discussion. Second: You have no idea if it's a minority of the market that actually wants this. The majority of users obviously use Adobe, that should tell you more than how many people are voicing their opinions in a forum. Not every user goes out of their way to re-requ…

This is such a silly stance to take. Just because something is important or painful for you doesn't make it universal, no matter which way you try to frame it. Just like you won't see the users who don't rerequest a feature, you won't see all the users who don't even remotely care about it.

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> A loud minority requesting a feature First, thanks for acknowledging that it's not "just me". That kind of nonsensical hyperbole doesn't help the discussion. Second: You have no idea if it's a minority of the market that actually wants this. The majority of users obviously use Adobe, that should tell you more than how many people are voicing their opinions in a forum. Not every user goes out of their way to re-requ…

This is such a silly stance to take. Just because something is important or painful for you doesn't make it universal, no matter which way you try to frame it. Just like you won't see the users who don't rerequest a feature, you won't see all the users who don't even remotely care about it.

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Re: Affinity's Adobe-rivaling creative suite is now free for six months

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> A loud minority requesting a feature First, thanks for acknowledging that it's not "just me". That kind of nonsensical hyperbole doesn't help the discussion. Second: You have no idea if it's a minority of the market that actually wants this. The majority of users obviously use Adobe, that should tell you more than how many people are voicing their opinions in a forum. Not every user goes out of their way to re-requ…

This is such a silly stance to take. Just because something is important or painful for you doesn't make it universal, no matter which way you try to frame it. Just like you won't see the users who don't rerequest a feature, you won't see all the users who don't even remotely care about it.

> Just because something is important or painful for you doesn't make it universal,

Again: nobody said it was "universal", but again: it's not about me, either. It's ridiculous that you're still insisting it's just me when you literally see other people complaining about it. You clearly aren't interested in having a reasonable conversation so there's no point in continuing to engage.

Re: Affinity's Adobe-rivaling creative suite is now free for six months

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Affinity doesn’t have a comparable program to Lightroom. Affinity Photo does have a development mode, but it’s single file focused and more akin to Photoshop’s raw import tool than an app like Lightroom or Bridge. I think RAW support is much lower than Adobe supports as well, at least with Fuji I’ve had issues and only a few programs handle Fuji compressed RAW. One of Affinity’s strengths is a single compatible file…

The big issue with Affinity Photo is that it doesn't support non-destructive editing / a non-linear workflow like Lightroom does. It's not exactly a fair comparison, since AP directly competes with Photoshop, not Lightroom, but that was what made it an immediate non-starter for me when it comes to photography. Affinity Photo starts you in a "Develop Persona" when you open a RAW file, and allows you to develop your RA…

Thanks, you articulated that much better than I would have.

The manuals for Affinity products are pretty good, and I agree on the price being worth it for the quality and usefulness of the software.

For me Publisher fits a good niche. Since V2 I use Designer for planning woodworking projects and it’s quite competent for that task (they’re simpler 2D plans and diagrams to track my cutting sheets).

One more Lightroom alternative for you to consider would be RawPower, which actually does a great job handling different raw formats. I know the devs have a new app but I haven’t tried it.

Re: Affinity's Adobe-rivaling creative suite is now free for six months

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> This discount, alongside the six-month free trial, is potentially geared at soothing concerns that Affinity would change its pricing model after being acquired by Canva earlier this year. This doesn't sooth my concerns. Why should it, when it's literally them switching to a subscription model. Nothing in the article says otherwise. Do we believe they'll build the infrastructure to support a SaaS, then turn it all o…

They have actually committed not to switch to a subscription model. Why do you think this is them doing that? > Do we believe they'll build the infrastructure to support a SaaS, then turn it all off after this 6-month trial? It's not a SaaS? It's a series of apps with trial keys that expire. Just like the normal 15 day trial or the pandemic-era three-month trial. Once the key expires, the trial expires.

> They have actually committed not to switch to a subscription mode

So did Adobe, with Lightroom.

Re: Affinity's Adobe-rivaling creative suite is now free for six months

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The big issue with Affinity Photo is that it doesn't support non-destructive editing / a non-linear workflow like Lightroom does. It's not exactly a fair comparison, since AP directly competes with Photoshop, not Lightroom, but that was what made it an immediate non-starter for me when it comes to photography. Affinity Photo starts you in a "Develop Persona" when you open a RAW file, and allows you to develop your RA…

Thanks, you articulated that much better than I would have. The manuals for Affinity products are pretty good, and I agree on the price being worth it for the quality and usefulness of the software. For me Publisher fits a good niche. Since V2 I use Designer for planning woodworking projects and it’s quite competent for that task (they’re simpler 2D plans and diagrams to track my cutting sheets). One more Lightroom a…

Thank you for the recommendation! RAW Power is one that I actually didn't have on my radar, and it certainly looks very interesting.

Maybe not as feature-rich as some of the heavy hitters, but it looks to be very focused in both its feature set and its UI. And it seems to hit that sweet spot where it does both cataloging and RAW processing competently.

This is the most promising alternative I've seen so far for what I'm yearning for, so thanks again!

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