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How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by coldtea »

chollida1 wrote: post #13
breck wrote: post #4

I'm 254 days into switching to a ketogenic diet (complete with at home instant ketone finger prick blood tests using the very affordable keto mojo), and can't believe I waited so long. I was roughly surfing sugar highs for 39 years. Would highly recommend looking into this if you are a sugar/carb addict like I was.

My biggest problem with Keto is that is that one bad meal and your out. I found it was just such a pain in the as for other as much as it was for me. Every meal at someone elses house I had to make my specific nutritional requirements available to the host, which then puts them out.

>My biggest problem with Keto is that is that one bad meal and your out

Until you deplete the sugar stores. So like fast 24h and you're back in.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by louthy »

As a sugar addict the only thing that has ever worked for me was doing a 3 day fast.

For about 6 months afterwards I just seemed to not need sugary things as much and I didn’t crave it in the same way. I also had a lot more control over my hunger, being able to ignore it for longer, so I guess that probably helped.

Eventually it wore off and I was back to being an addict again, but I thought it was interesting because I never expected that to happen. I guess it was a ‘cold turkey’ episode.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by bdcravens »

Sugar is one of my downfalls, but unfortunately I have to keep some sugar around for when I have a blood glucose low (I'm diabetic and have a pump). Of course, I could focus on more healthy versions of sugar (like juice instead of candy), which I almost never do.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

coldtea wrote: post #111
Galatians4_16 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switch to nuts, but be sure to pair with citrus, to offset the oxalates, or you'll get kidney stones. Food cravings often reflect mineral cravings (1) 1. https://dailyhealthpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/21-fo...

> Switch to nuts Nut are crazily high in calories though. Walnuts are 650 calories per 100 grams (and 100 grams are not that difficult to eat!). 100 grams of steak are like 270 calories for comparison (less than half!).

Isn’t that the point? Your body needs calories! Nuts are a great way to get filling healthy calories so you don’t go around eating junk.

M&M’s are 492 calories per 100g, so slightly less than your figure for walnuts, but I can’t imagine that eating candy is healthier. And similarly, steak has many negative health effects.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by duckmysick »

jakubmazanec wrote: post #108
gnz11 wrote: post #76

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Come on, are you seriously implying fruit is somehow bad for you now?

This is some latest research on this topic: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10363705/

What exactly do you mean by "this topic"? Fruits being bad for you, which is the comment you're replying to?

This is the only mention of fruit in the linked paper:

> Fructose is a simple sugar that is the primary nutrient in fruit and honey. However, in the western diet, its main source is table sugar (sucrose), which consists of fructose and glucose bound together, and high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), which consists of a blended mixture of fructose and glucose, often with slightly higher concentrations of fructose as testing has suggested humans prefer slightly more fructose as it is sweeter than glucose. Today these ‘added sugars’ account for ≈15% of overall energy intake, with some groups ingesting as much as 20% or more.

> Fructose is also generated in the body from glucose. This occurs when glucose levels (i.e. the substrate) are excessive, such as in diabetes, following the ingestion of high glycaemic carbohydrates, and by high carbohydrate diets.

Similarly, the grandparent comment "Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits)" should read like this: "Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits, but these days it's primarily from table sugar and processed foods)"

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by coldtea »

cm2187 wrote: post #30
chollida1 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My biggest problem with Keto is that is that one bad meal and your out. I found it was just such a pain in the as for other as much as it was for me. Every meal at someone elses house I had to make my specific nutritional requirements available to the host, which then puts them out.

Same thing with intermittent fasting. One deviation and the appetite comes back with a vengeance and you have to restart from scratch the process of getting used to fasting (which is the hard part, the appetite is what makes the caveman go out chase the mammoth, it's a strong force). Experimenting with Mounjaro right now + intermittent fasting. So far so good, but only one week into it. I am hoping to use it as a gua…

If you've IF for a while, you hardly have to "restart from scratch".

Except if by "one deviation" you mean a month or more going without IF...

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by rchaud »

savanaly wrote: post #38
ThinkBeat wrote: post #28

To compare it to heroin is a horrible trivialization of something that destroys a person and at time those around the person. I feel that to make this statement in any genuine way, the author should spend 6 months developing a serious addiction to heroin then attempt to get clean. I am blessed I have never done heroin and hopefully I never will. I have gone weeks without sugar and had a craving, some mild headaches a…

There are other axes of comparison than severity. I think it’s a comparison that well illustrates their point.

It's a blog post, not a feature article in a national newspaper.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by itscrush »

louthy wrote: post #132

As a sugar addict the only thing that has ever worked for me was doing a 3 day fast. For about 6 months afterwards I just seemed to not need sugary things as much and I didn’t crave it in the same way. I also had a lot more control over my hunger, being able to ignore it for longer, so I guess that probably helped. Eventually it wore off and I was back to being an addict again, but I thought it was interesting becaus…

Did you return to try another 3-day fast? Any ability to repeat the prior success?

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by hombre_fatal »

snvzz wrote: post #127
coldtea wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is like: - You're depressed? Just cheer up! - Gee, why haven't I thought of that! Fasting wont take away the cravings, if anything it will make them worse (after a few days you feel very hungry and all you can think about is food, then there's a period where you don't mind, then you are starving again, and so on). And even if it did, once you stop the fast you get the cravings again.

>This is like: Exercising willpower is an important life skill. Being able to will be extremely helpful in way too many occasions to count. >Fasting wont take away the cravings It will, actually. Sugar cravings are very different relative to regular hunger, and are really gone for good within 48h. >after a few days you feel very hungry and all you can think about is food, The "all you can think" is just not true. It'…

Willpower, propensity for addiction, susceptibility to sugar, etc. aren't equally distributed.

The people you're preaching to have tried all those things. Your advice cashes out into "land better in the distribution like me and then confuse it for a character trait like I do".

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