Read this article if you want to know Perplexity’s idea of taking other people’s content and thinking they can get away with it, https://stackdiary.com/perplexity-has-a-plagiarism-problem/ The CEO said that they have some “rough edges” to figure out, but their entire product is built on stealing people’s content. And apparently[0] they want to start paying big publishers to make all that noise go away. [0]: https://w…
It's been debated at length, but to make it short: piracy is not theft, and everyone in the LLM space has been taking other people’s content and so far getting away with it (pending lawsuits notwithstanding).
Perplexity AI is lying about their user agent
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is a human reading a book in any way related or comparable to a machine ingesting millions of books per day with the goal of stealing their content and replacing them?
Directly. What if while reading you make notes - are you strealing content? If yes - should then people be forbidden from taking notes? How does writing down a note onto a piece of paper differ from writing it into your memory?
So they could easily decide logically unsound things that make pedants go nuts, like taking notes, or even an AI system that automatically takes notes, could be obvious fair use, while recording the exact same strings for training AI are not.
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#133Now, I could honestly also argue and be concerned that human creativity didn't matter about 10 years ago, because now it seems that humanity's MOST VALUABLE asset is the almighty AD. People now mostly make content JUST TO GET TO the ads, so it's already lost its soul, leaving me EVEN NOW, trying to find some TRULY REAL SOUL-MADE music/art/code/etc, which I find extraordinarily hard in today's world.
I also find it kind of funny about all of AI, and ironic that we are going to burn up our planet using the most supposedly advanced piece of technology we have created from all of this to produce MORE ADS, which you watch and see, will be the MAIN thing this is used for after it has replaced everyone it can.
If we are going to burn up the planet for power, we should at least require the use of it's results into things that help what humanity we have left, rather than figuring out how to grow forever.
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#134If we can feed all the knowledge we have into a system that will be able to create novel ideas, help us in a myriad of use cases, isn’t this justification enough to do it? Isn’t the situation akin to scihub? Or library genesis? Btw: There are endless many people around the globe who cannot pay 30 USD for one book, let alone several books.
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#135Re: Perplexity AI is lying about their user agent
#136If you've ever tried to do any web scraping, you'll know why they lie about the User-Agent, and you'd do it too if you wanted your program to work properly. Discriminating based on User-Agent string is the unethical part.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s not retrieving a web page though is it? It’s retrieving the content then manipulating it. Perplexity isn’t a web browser.
> It’s retrieving the content then manipulating it. Perplexity isn’t a web browser. So a browser with an ad-blocker that's removing / manipulating elements on the page isn't a browser? What about reader mode?
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#138Re: Perplexity AI is lying about their user agent
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's been debated at length, but to make it short: piracy is not theft, and everyone in the LLM space has been taking other people’s content and so far getting away with it (pending lawsuits notwithstanding).
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#140I really don't see this as that big of an issue with Perplexity per se, as sources are cited in the content. Users can still opt to visit relevant sources.