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Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by latexr »

CodeWriter23 wrote: post #120
latexr wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner. As of now, I have zero trust in the old author too. The lack of communication is the fault of both parties. Ben Surtees has caused serious damage to their own reputation. Any new software released under that name will have a hard time gaining trust and traction.

Probably one of the terms of sale. But choosing to receive even more money above protecting the privacy of those who previously paid you money and trusted you is pretty dastardly IMO.

I would say that if it was one of the terms of the sale (we don’t know), that’s even worse. If a buyer makes that request, the seller should be even more conscious of “who the heck am I selling to?”

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by veidr »

xlii wrote: post #26

Offtopic, but am I the only person surprised how badly Apple stalled when it comes to window management and UX on MacOS? I feel that today, as a power user/professional, MacOS wouldn't be usable without applications like Bartender, external window manager such as Rectangle/Divvy etc. I feel strong attraction coming from yabai, but disabling SIP is too much for me. Personally I'm reaching the point where I'd migrate t…

Linux pulled ahead of macOS for desktop computing like 3 years ago.

But, that was about 3 years after desktop computing became this niche thing that only GenX/Boomers still do... (T_T)

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by theshrike79 »

SpaghettiCthulu wrote: post #80
eviks wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To get information about other apps' icons

If true, that's a wild permissions model

You wouldn't want your mouse driver, for example, being able to see _every_ piece of software in your menu bar by default without extra permissions?

The case for "I need to see what apps are in the menu bar" is so rare there's no setting for it -> "screen recording" is the closest one.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by veidr »

thiht wrote: post #95
bartvk wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stage Manager was introduced in Ventura, which is definitely a form of window management. I don't think you can call that "badly stalled"?

Does anyone actually use Stage Manager though? Probably a bias on my part but I don't know anyone who use it ever

I don't, but was astonished to find out the majority of my team at work uses it, and has been for a while.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by carlosjobim »

latexr wrote: post #93
kstrauser wrote: post #3

Not the submitter, but I installed this a couple days ago to replace Bartender. For those not following along at home, the Bartender author just sold it to some sketchy app mill. It’s an app that legitimately requires screen recording permissions to work. I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner. Ice isn’t as good yet. It’s not nearly so configurable. For example, you can either hide…

> I trusted the old author’s reputation. I have zero trust in the own owner. As of now, I have zero trust in the old author too. The lack of communication is the fault of both parties. Ben Surtees has caused serious damage to their own reputation. Any new software released under that name will have a hard time gaining trust and traction.

And who are you to slander a named person and publicly question his reputation, for selling his own business that he created to somebody else? Your behaviour is not proportional to what has happened. It is an icon utility.

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by nottorp »

KronisLV wrote: post #19

I got a MacBook for a freelance development project (also needed to build an iOS app) and I have to say that the OS itself feels pretty good. Very much a walled garden and normally perhaps outside of my budget (and the button order on the keyboard feels odd), but in general it's pretty smooth so far! Nice to see various customization options, BetterDisplay was also pretty useful when dealing with an external monitor…

You're saying about what I said when I first got paid to do some mac software :)

I bought a crappy used mac, used it to make the money, then thought it was immoral to not get a new laptop (it wasn't a big project but it paid like 3x the laptop, and i was moonlighting it so it was all bonus money).

15 years later i have more macs than x86 boxes in my home office...

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by healsdata »

emsixteen wrote: post #85
lyall wrote: post #9

I use Hidden Bar ( https://github.com/dwarvesf/hidden ) for this. It works well enough despite not being updated in a while, though there is a bit of jank. Just tried out Ice and it seems to be a nice, lower jank replacement!

I use Hidden Bar too, it's done the job for me, but if there's a reason to hop to another I'm all ears.

It's a minor nit, but I like that Ice doesn't force me to have extra icons in the bar. Unless I missed a setting, Hidden Bar required having < and | icons for separators

Re: Ice – open source menu bar manager for macOS

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Post by hbn »

jprd wrote: post #130

It took me a seriously long amount of time to realize this wasn't software for MANAGING AN ACTUAL BAR/PUB. Must be frustrating as a Mac user to be locked into paying lots of money to have a desktop OS that works how you want

It turns out Safari isn't for backpacking expeditions in Tanzania either
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