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Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

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Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

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This is the first time I've heard someone refer to DEC as "Digital." Is that an Australian quirk? Not that it's wrong, as it is part of the name and could likely be a regional expression and/or historically accurate, and in any case it's before my time in the industry. > but was yet to announce he was gay (took another decade) I don't know why this detail was included; not that it's anything to be ashamed of. It just…

There's nothing wrong with including irrelevant details if they make a comment more interesting; and I don't see what was insensitive or judgmental in the GP. " Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead. " - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator…

> There's nothing wrong with including irrelevant details if they make a comment more interesting; and I don't see what was insensitive or judgmental in the GP.

It’s insensitive/judgmental in my view to casually mention the public disclosure or lack thereof of someone’s sexual orientation as a curiosity to be commented upon. The original commenter characterized their lack of coming out of the closet as some kind of moral failing or incongruity by juxtaposing it alongside other life changes that are matters of personal preference and nearly commodity-level interchangeability (their clothing operating system choices). This is problematic because of the implication that being “out” is a mere personal preference with minimal stakes, and is offensive because it is close to shaming them for not being out sooner, and close to saying that sexual orientation is a choice, which is a known right-wing talking point and dehumanizing to many in the gay community.

Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll elaborate then. @contingencies was telling a personal anecdote about his own life, which happened to involve meeting someone while that someone was still in the closet. Unprovoked, you decided to take umbrage with this. There was no reason to do so. In doing that, you dragged the thread off-topic and continued to escalate. That was wrong. You shouldn't conduct yourself in such a fashion.

Please don't get sucked in to spats like this on HN. I know it's not always easy but it's an effort we all need to make. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sorry dang. I tried to explain myself clearly without making things personal, but there's no rescuing this kind of engagement once it starts. The only winning move is not to play. I'll do better.

Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

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It's rare that a tech story brings me to tears, but I couldn't help feel one swelling up when reading the final paragraphs. > Eventually, it was Wilkie who made the first move. Overwhelmed with emotion, his eyes red and swollen with grief, he stepped forward and detached the red rosette from the lapel of his suit jacket. It was the same one Don had given him years before. Leaning down, he gently placed the rosette on…

I love the story... But don't forget this story is the proper selection of events with textual glue and interpretation to make it feel like a novel. Some statements belong more to the glue than to History, and they should remind us this is a real-life-based * novel *. I especially noted this one: "nobody at IBM had any real experience with [microcomputers]". IBM senior management was certainly reluctant, but "nobody"…

Small fix: the IBM System/23 Datamaster was based on Intel 8085, an improved version of the 8080 (binary compatible, more features, requiring less electronics around).

Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But she is not nude on this pic, right?

The square crop used as a test image is just her face, but the original, full-page shot shows all her body, and she is very much nude.

I see, thank you for this tip.
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