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Re: Stable Audio Open

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It produces decent audio, but something unpleasant about its high frequencies. And no voices, it doesn't seem to talk or sing. Udio, so far, is undefeated. And ElevenLabs' music demos were very very impressive, but it's still not released.

As far as I understand, this isn't competing with Udio? It seems to be designed for creating sound effects and loops, not entire songs.

Re: Stable Audio Open

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But you're a tech person. I'm trying to think of this from the point of view of e.g. a likely potential jury. Again: Imagine two AI machines, different in one way: One of them has been fed "Article X" and the other hasn't. You press buttons on the machine(s) in the same way. The machine that was fed "Article X" spits out something that looks like Article X, and the one that wasn't, doesn't. The magic inside, I don't…

>But you're a tech person. I'm trying to think of this from the point of view of e.g. a likely potential jury. Courts can call experts to testify on matters requiring specialized knowledge or expertise.

Absolutely; but again, if I'm the lawyer on the other side, I'm pretty confident that I'm beating any "expert" on this with the simple logic of:

- You put thing into the machine

- You press buttons, it makes obvious derivative work

- You don't put thing into the machine, and it can't do that anymore.

There is "something" in there GENERATING COPIES and we see exactly where it came from, even if we can't identify it in the code or whatever.

Re: Stable Audio Open

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A program that can produce copies is the same as a copy. How that copy comes into being (whether out of an algorithm or read from a support) is related, but not relevant.

A human illustrator can also copy existing works. As a result they are not criminalized for making other non-copies. The output of an AI needs to be considered independently of its input. Further, the folly of copyright ought to be also considered, since no work -- whether solely human in origin (such as speech, unaccompanied song, dance etc.) or built with technological prosthesis/instrumentality -- is ever made in…

human illustrator != machine owned by a Moloch powered mega tech corp

Re: Stable Audio Open

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None of these are impressive in the least. Anything I have heard from Udio is basically trash. It is the AI art equivalent of synthetic cats and pretty face shots. Who cares. What is ultimately going to be undefeated is training your own model.

I've heard many good things from Udio and the demo tracks from ElevenLabs are very high quality. https://www.udio.com/songs/ai2uAaBffRGdWdTNNqAbDx https://www.udio.com/songs/19xQAMG6E1UXG7wNvP7nDW https://www.udio.com/songs/mPAFYyFgo7Nqjb8ypeFfh9 https://www.udio.com/songs/7sKM9jMwZrXwTTzmMYN9qv https://www.udio.com/songs/coixNX1gnJ1oWT8z2LQddk

I just don't see how any of these examples from Udio or ElevenLabs could be considered good. To me they sound just bland enough that I may be fooled by them if I weren't paying close attention. If I do pay attention it sounds like a song accidentally came about. It sounds like music might in a dream. Eerie.

Re: Stable Audio Open

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I've heard many good things from Udio and the demo tracks from ElevenLabs are very high quality. https://www.udio.com/songs/ai2uAaBffRGdWdTNNqAbDx https://www.udio.com/songs/19xQAMG6E1UXG7wNvP7nDW https://www.udio.com/songs/mPAFYyFgo7Nqjb8ypeFfh9 https://www.udio.com/songs/7sKM9jMwZrXwTTzmMYN9qv https://www.udio.com/songs/coixNX1gnJ1oWT8z2LQddk

I just don't see how any of these examples from Udio or ElevenLabs could be considered good. To me they sound just bland enough that I may be fooled by them if I weren't paying close attention. If I do pay attention it sounds like a song accidentally came about. It sounds like music might in a dream. Eerie.

I think if I gave you 20 pieces of music, half of them made by AI, you wouldn't be able to tell which ones are made by AI much better than guessing randomly.

Re: Stable Audio Open

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I just don't see how any of these examples from Udio or ElevenLabs could be considered good. To me they sound just bland enough that I may be fooled by them if I weren't paying close attention. If I do pay attention it sounds like a song accidentally came about. It sounds like music might in a dream. Eerie.

I think if I gave you 20 pieces of music, half of them made by AI, you wouldn't be able to tell which ones are made by AI much better than guessing randomly.

I am certain I could, in fact I'd bet a lot on it. I'd have a hard time distinguishing AI generated images at this point, but earlier on there were major indicators. This tech is still primitive. The lyrics are dead giveaways, the tracks all sound blended together. A 5 second snippet of a song seems coherent, but the songs never go anywhere. If you listen to a lot of music, and have a decent pair of headphones, it's immediately obvious. Someone who makes music would be able to identify the specific flaws better than me.
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