The D language forums[1] are a good example of an alternative approach. I don't know what their server/storage costs are, but all that information from the last couple decades is easy to find with a search. The forum is fast, it doesn't require registration, and it's open source.[2]
Stop Using Discord
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#132Has anyone remarked on the irony that this appeal to stop using discord, because it isn't searchable from the outside, is published on mastodon, which is also not searchable from the outside?
I tried to google for things I had earlier seen on Mastodon, but was never able to find the relevant post again. Even modern-day Twitter, which is impossible to just browse these days, is more googlable.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
We (Hyperledger) got a ton of positive feedback from our blind users when we moved to Discord. Apparently the UX is extremely well laid out for screen readers.
I'm blind and I don't like Discord. They implement accessibility well, but they, Slack, Teams and the like have decided that I need to know the sender and time stamp of every message in the chat. Read to me for every message. Jumping between screen sections is annoying because lists and headings are too nineties and the hell with them. Captchas? Should I mention that for some reason they disliked one of my logins and…
I’m sorry to hear that. I know two of the blind users personally and they are active in discord.
I agree on captchas. Rocket.Chat was the previous platform.
I will file a bug against discord on the timestamp issue.
When I worked for Washington State University, one of our tests pre website update, was the developers had to use a desktop with a screen reader and the display turned off. I think we made great websites for blind users. That was in 2003, so things may have changed.
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#134The main complain here is lack of archive/history of what was on the internet.
Discord is a big offender, but it is not alone.
Consider: Google Plus, Usenet, Facebook.
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#135I totally agree, and also stop using FB groups it's even worse. But the issue is no replacement is proposed by the author. Discord has the advantage of: - being free - being maintained by someone else - being used by a lot of people, so no need to create a new account for many users - being very useful as a chat and growing organically as support from there I don't see many competitors available. For example discours…
Hello! I work for Discourse, it's open source so you can self-host most sites on a cloud provider like Digital Ocean for ~$20/mo
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#136Ultimately someone has to pay for things. Many communities have apparently decided they don't want to use even modern forum software and become a webmaster, along with avoiding the costs and time associated, or use someone else's existing forum (which may or may not suit their needs). The quite liberal free file attachment limits (25MB each), ease of communication and ironically the fact Discord is closed off in natu…
I tried discord only once, but to me it was a disorganized chaotic experience. People seem to really think that well organized faq sections on traditional websites and properly searchable and indexable forum threads should be replaced by "just search through two years of chat backlog on discord". Or something like that.
I run a large discord. I am in several large discords. I do not know anyone proposing replacing a traditional FAQ with discord.
If anything, I would argue discord tends to improve website-based documentation because people ask the same question over and over again, leading to a need for a quick way to link the answer.
Who do you think is replacing FAQ's with Discord?
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#137Stop Using Mastodon.
What would you rather see people use instead?
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#138This. "Join my Discord" is a 100% hard pass for me. Every time I've made an exception, the entire experience is a net-negative. Half the time, I can't even get authenticated and then once I'm in, everything is awful. The notifications, the constant chatter, the dozens of topics, the useless search, it shocks me that anyone over the age of 14 uses it at all. Add to all the broken basics, the fact that your data is now…
I don't get this:
> The notifications,
You can turn them off
> the constant chatter, the dozens of topics
Topics are there to limit the messages to just what you're interested in, cutting down the chatter.
If you expect it to be anything different than discord, you'll be disappointed, but there are communities where discord/slack/mattermost model works fine.
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#139I've been on Discord channels where the mods are constantly getting pissed off because people keep asking the same questions, so much so that they ban people when it happens. I'm starting to think that this is part of the appeal. Having an emotional outburst and power tripping is fun for some people, and Discord provides ample opportunity to do it (+ in real-time) However, I will admit that I much prefer seeing that…
It’s a change in culture, people are asking questions a lot more instead of doing their own searches for information. Then they get mad at me when I point out that google provides great results for that exact question and they should have started there. It seems to be an attempt to outsource their thinking to other people.
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#140Everyone saying use forums.
Like yeah, forums are great if you want to search something and find. But... Have you actually make an account and ask about your problem?
Because I have, in reddit, specialised forums, and other forums, make an account and try to post.
You have stupid limitations with your new account, most of them, do not impede you asking your question, but it does at linking image, video, or link that would help explaining your problem.
You have to create an account for that specific forum. If you are on Reddit you need to deal with automod, who deletes your post the second you press send. Often without a warning, a real reason, other because you asked for help, please check the wiki. (Yes, my problem is not there)
Then there is the second part, the community. Most of the time, if you overcome that situations, your post get no answers. Sitting there until it reaches the end of page 1 on the forum, and then it is forgotten forever.
Discord is easy, you go, connect with your account, have some rules displayed, accept it, send a chat message, you might get an answer or not, most of the times you do, although is not helpful.
So yes, Discord is a sinkhole of information. But the experience is way better, even if it is a shitty mess.