Literally every color grading example shows log footage as the "before". Of course this lacks contrast and vibrancy because it's not meant to be watched "as is". Please show me regular footage as a baseline so it's a fair comparison.
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#132Literally every color grading example shows log footage as the "before". Of course this lacks contrast and vibrancy because it's not meant to be watched "as is". Please show me regular footage as a baseline so it's a fair comparison.
I didn't read this as a comparison against normal iPhone output
normal iPhone output is great looking just not "the look"
I prefer without a comparison of iPhones version.
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#133I like the still from Con Air (sporting Cyrus 'The Virus'), but do people actually use a phone to shoot 'serious' movies? Even amateur, super low-budget ones? When so many cameras that can be bought used for dirt cheap, shoot D-Log, and many have interchangeable lenses, and an actual shutter button, and removable SD cards, etc.
Taking pictures with a phone is unpleasant enough, but shooting movies is another world of pain.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
What happens is you run out of new people to sell your niche app to (or hit a long rather thin tail) while continuing to provide updates for your existing userbase. So you either have to release arbitrary new versions from time to time leaving the old ones neglected and eventually unsupported (or with the overhead of supporting several versions) or you switch to a subscription model. It's happened with so many busine…
Subscription fatigue is very real today, but to your point, as a business you can't provide eternal updates (work) for free. In the old days, you'd buy a new version of Mac or Windows or any software that you run on it (Office, Parallels, etc.) when you wanted the new features each year. I think Apple's App Store has a lot to do with why everything is now subscription-based. They used to offer developers a smaller Ap…
> Normal software should mostly go back to just issuing new versions each year (or whatever frequency), so that consumers re-frame the purchase cycle to something that feels more reasonable again.
One way which feels fair that I have seen companies do is provide "Maintenance".
Premium paid support offerings which also includes upgrades to any versions released during your contract duration. It's enterprisey, and maybe weird for a camera app (how much support could you possibly really need?).
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
FiLMiC Pro, another pro camera app for iPhone, also existed for years [0] and sold with the one-time-purchase business model. They're now a subscription [1] and owned by Bending Spoons / Evernote. (Plus, more bad news [2]...) [0]: http://web.archive.org/web/20111130073123/http://www.filmicp... [1]: https://www.cined.com/filmic-pro-is-joining-forces-with-bend... [2]: https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/3/23986187/filmic-…
That kind of proves that one time sales can be a successful business model, doesn't it? They were a successful business employing 23 people after more than a decade on the one time sales model!
No one said it’s not possible to be successful with it
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#137I like the still from Con Air (sporting Cyrus 'The Virus'), but do people actually use a phone to shoot 'serious' movies? Even amateur, super low-budget ones? When so many cameras that can be bought used for dirt cheap, shoot D-Log, and many have interchangeable lenses, and an actual shutter button, and removable SD cards, etc. Taking pictures with a phone is unpleasant enough, but shooting movies is another world of…
I don’t think the overall goal here is to increase the frequency at which you choose an iPhone when you’re carefully considering which camera to use from a large selection of available cameras.
Instead, I think the overall goal is to increase the video quality for times when you don’t have the chance to carefully consider which camera to use from a large selection of available cameras. Your iPhone is already in your pocket.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tent-pole_(entertainment)
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/10/business/apple-siri-ai-ch... : > a tent pole project — the company’s special, internal label that it uses to organize employees around once-in-a-decade initiatives https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13305285
Pretty sure they lifted that from the features industry.
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#139This looks cool but the line about “show don’t tell” is followed by a LOT of telling.
The copy is atrocious.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can apply a LUT to the capture. They also have a good Davinci Resolve iPad app; maybe they'll make an iPhone version in the future.
Applying a LUT is not the same thing as color grading. It's simply applying a LUT. The app that was specifically linked to is not Resolve. It is an app tapping into the new features introduced with the newest model device. If you use the linked app to acquire footage with your phone, you would still need to make that data available to the iPad version of Resolve. Again, this app does not require that at all.
How is color grading applied if not with LUTs? You know that when you do color grading with apps like Resolve, it is stored in memory as a LUT, right?