Jimmy Carter UFO Incident

Post by WillAdams » Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 4:11 PM UTC

adammichaelc wrote: post #127

WillAdams wrote: post #114

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I think it's strange to believe that a starship could enter the solar system without being noticed due to the requirements of: - velocity --- it would need to be moving quickly and would have to decelerate (requires energy) to do more than pass through - life support/technology requirements and attendant heat signature --- interstellar space is _cold_ and not conducive to either, so requires on-going energy output -…

Are you suggesting American humans have reached the pinnacle of understanding how the Universe works? With our technology, we could easily avoid being seen by a hunter-gatherer society. Do you imagine that your society does not have similar blind spots? How much arrogance there is in the modern Euro-centric world. Because the society has explored beyond what our grandparents believed possible, suddenly we are the pin…

Post by runarberg » Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 4:18 PM UTC

andsoitis wrote: post #128

vidarh wrote: post #90

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South Africa very much used townships and bantustans as a means of pushing both black South Africans and Namibians off land they wanted for whites. Yes, it is explicitly a racist ideology, but part of that racism is used to justify a treatment of others that enables confiscation and colonization.

The Bantu peoples also pushed the original inhabitants of Southern Africa off of their land (San, Khoi). If we’re going to apply the term apartheid to non-South African contexts[1] then we should also be intellectually rigorous in applying it in the case where the San and Khoi were victims of the Bantu expansion (and later European and Asian). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_people [1] It is worth noting that we al…

Post by andsoitis » Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 4:31 PM UTC

runarberg wrote: post #133

andsoitis wrote: post #128

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The Bantu peoples also pushed the original inhabitants of Southern Africa off of their land (San, Khoi). If we’re going to apply the term apartheid to non-South African contexts[1] then we should also be intellectually rigorous in applying it in the case where the San and Khoi were victims of the Bantu expansion (and later European and Asian). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_people [1] It is worth noting that we al…

The crime of apartheid under international law only looks at existing regimes and whether they apply oppression along racial lines. It does not include provisions on historic oppression done by the ancestors of the currently oppressed. That would be ridiculous. So saying: “But they did it to a different people, dozens of generations ago” is not admissible as a justification for the crime of apartheid for the ICC. In…

Post by sgnelson » Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 4:53 PM UTC

vertnerd wrote: post #16

"... Carter himself later said that, while he had considered the object to be a UFO—on the grounds it was unexplained—his knowledge of physics had meant he had not believed himself to be witnessing an alien spacecraft." Can you imagine that someone this clear-headed was ever the President of the United States?

Post by paulddraper » Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 5:14 PM UTC

sgnelson wrote: post #137

vertnerd wrote: post #16

"... Carter himself later said that, while he had considered the object to be a UFO—on the grounds it was unexplained—his knowledge of physics had meant he had not believed himself to be witnessing an alien spacecraft." Can you imagine that someone this clear-headed was ever the President of the United States?

Jimmy Carter may have been one of the most decent human beings the US has ever had as a President. I think the way that the Republican party treated (both then and now) a southern, small family farmer who served in the military and taught Sunday school is one of those ironies that shows what values the Republican party actually believes in. And this has obviously only accelerated massively since Trump.