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Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by cromka »

miffy900 wrote: post #84
cmelbye wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy was specifically talking about the video's headline, which was written to be clickbait like everything else on YouTube because that's how MKBHD pays his bills.

The tweet in question I'm guessing you're referring to is this: > I find it distasteful, almost unethical, to say this when you have 18 million subscribers. > Hard to explain why, but with great reach comes great responsibility. Potentially killing someone else’s nascent project reeks of carelessness. > First, do no harm. It's pretty clear they're not referring to JUST the headline/title of the YT video.

I don’t agree, I could still make an opposite statement based on those quotes.

Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by MyFirstSass »

MichaelMug wrote: post #45

The drama tweets are just an ad. You kind of want to find out who "Daniel Vassallo" is, and of course he's selling a subscription.

Pretty sure he's a scammer like the rest of the people selling courses after never having done anything noteworthy or interesting in their "career".

Ie. people shouldn't boost this.

Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by zarzavat »

newman314 wrote: post #129
throwaway5959 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thing is, we should defend MKBHD. He didn’t do anything wrong. He did his job.

Here's my $0.02 MKBHD posted an IMO unnecessarily clickbaity title to his review. I watched the review and thought that he was mostly on the ball except for the once again exaggeration that it's the worst product ever (for the views). In a way, it seems that the recent scathing review for Fisker and the views generated might have gone to his head somewhat. Given that the Rabbit R1 is coming out soon (which he will li…

Agree. The review was fine, but the optics of the title are bad because he makes $$$$ from the clickbait. Even if the title was accurate (I don’t think it’s likely to be literally accurate).

Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by arghwhat »

newman314 wrote: post #129
throwaway5959 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thing is, we should defend MKBHD. He didn’t do anything wrong. He did his job.

Here's my $0.02 MKBHD posted an IMO unnecessarily clickbaity title to his review. I watched the review and thought that he was mostly on the ball except for the once again exaggeration that it's the worst product ever (for the views). In a way, it seems that the recent scathing review for Fisker and the views generated might have gone to his head somewhat. Given that the Rabbit R1 is coming out soon (which he will li…

On the other hand, the video spends a significant amount of time explaining how the product is well super well designed and comes with a lot of features.

It is just completely and utterly useless for its intended purpose with no redeeming qualities in use whatsoever. The title is clickbaity, but you get the same conclusion from watching the video and seeing the product in action. Other review sites seem to agree.

You can argue that this indeed means that the company will sell fewer of this generation of product, which might make them unable to develop the next generation... But giving a favorable review to make people buy 700 USD paperweights in order to sponsor development would be deceit and wrong.

Some ideas look good on paper and are interesting to make, but fail catastrophically when confronted with real users. Nothing new about it.

Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by rickdeckard »

sourcecodeplz wrote: post #37

I honestly watch almost all his videos but I was kind of surprised on how he handled the Humane AI pin. He basically shit on it for not being perfect. Remember, this is a product in a NEW CATEGORY. Of course it is not going to be perfect. But saying it is the WORST PRODUCT EVAH, is really shitty and way in the clouds (not down to earth). Anyway, I will continue to watch his videos because they are informative and ent…

> Remember, this is a product in a NEW CATEGORY. Of course it is not going to be perfect.

Okay. We're tech-people here so let's be straight. Software can be improved upon even after purchase. If the company gains sufficient momentum they could address some issues and make it better.

But the AI pin is a product which depends on:

#1 A projector which consumes too much power yet is too weak to be visible in daylight

#2 A voice-cloud-voice roundtrip which is not fast enough to feel instant, especially because there's no display to entertain the user while waiting.

Apart from anything else, these human interface issues cannot be fixed after purchase.

So cutting as much slack for them as I can, my verdict is still "don't buy"

A disruptive product doesn't have to be jack of all trades, it usually excels in 1-2 areas while being weak in others.

--> in which area will the AI pin be able to excel?

Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by rickdeckard »

Gigachad wrote: post #40
threeseed wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing that is missed is that Marques is careful about what he reviews. 99% of the junk that companies release he/his team simply won't waste time on. So the title is probably true.

I think also part of what makes it so bad is the mismatch between expectations, price, marketing, and reality. If you bought a pair of $10 headphones from ebay and they suck, it's not shocking. But when you have a $700 device, with hundreds of millions in funding, and a ton of marketing about it being the smartphone killer and the future of computing, yet the device is total junk, that makes it worse in a way than ot…

I do wonder what would have happened if Humane would have launched the product as an invitation-only beta with a different pricing-scheme.

The hardware is good enough to test it. Power-consumption, projector and voice-cloud-voice latency is too high.

But that's probably all forgivable if it's a "public beta" with the clear statement that this is not a final mass-product...

Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by mananaysiempre »

al_borland wrote: post #103
cmelbye wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy was specifically talking about the video's headline, which was written to be clickbait like everything else on YouTube because that's how MKBHD pays his bills.

It’s the opposite of clickbait. The title saves the viewer from having to watch the video at all, as it says everything someone really needs to know in that single line. It’s a bad product. I find it silly that people are pointing at MKBHD for the downfall of a company, instead of the people who ran the company and decided to launch when the experience wasn’t good and the value proposition was poor. Releasing early t…

It’d say the thing that pushes it (“The Worst Product I've Ever Reviewed... For Now”) over the clickbait line is that it doesn’t mention what is being reviewed, so you still have to open the video to learn what that the product in question actually is. Otherwise, yes, it would merely be reasonably hyperbolic.

(The actual review is good though.)

Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by samrolken »

atonse wrote: post #121
paxys wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Defend him from what exactly? There was literally no controversy until people started defending him from the controversy. The only person who won here is Daniel Vassallo, whose low effort post went viral because people kept sharing it to show how stupid it was, thus drawing more eyeballs to his $400 "I will teach you how to be a successful entrepreneur" course on X (because of course he has one).

Really? He has a course like that? Sounds like Vassallo is selling way more Snake oil than he claims ill intentions with MKBHD.

After a while of following him, some bot on his account DMs me about some crypto or whatever stuff.

Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by rickdeckard »

paxys wrote: post #49

This entire controversy is so stupidly overblown. MKBHD posts a fair and thorough review of a shitty product, which is exactly in line with what every other reviewer has said about it as well. One guy tweets about how he wasn't fair, and how he has a responsibility to not write bad things about companies because of the size of his viewer base (wut??) Now the entire internet feels the need to come defend MKBHD, thus a…

I do wonder what would have happened if Humane would have launched the product as an invitation-only beta with a different pricing-scheme. The hardware is good enough to test it. Power-consumption, projector and voice-cloud-voice latency is too high.

But that's probably all forgivable if it's a "public beta" with the clear statement that this is not a final mass-product...

I think reviews would have been much better (for the SAME product), with a "curious how it evolves!" verdict cutting Humane some slack for walking new grounds...

Overall it might have been the hubris of Humane to "end Apple" which harmed them more than anything else

Re: MKBHDs for Everything

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Post by throwaway2990 »

throwaway5959 wrote: post #51
paxys wrote: post #49

This entire controversy is so stupidly overblown. MKBHD posts a fair and thorough review of a shitty product, which is exactly in line with what every other reviewer has said about it as well. One guy tweets about how he wasn't fair, and how he has a responsibility to not write bad things about companies because of the size of his viewer base (wut??) Now the entire internet feels the need to come defend MKBHD, thus a…

Thing is, we should defend MKBHD. He didn’t do anything wrong. He did his job.

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