Kate editor on all platforms

Post by diffeomorphism » Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 8:18 PM UTC

brabel wrote: post #109

diffeomorphism wrote: post #95

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That sounds more like switching to macos being terrible. If I am used to kate on linux, windows,..., then I expect it to just work if someone hands me a mac with kate. If you additionally want mac-style shortcuts as an option that is fine, but defaults should be consistent.

There's no app that uses the same shortcuts in all OSs because that's just stupid (amongst other reasons, because the shortcuts would conflict with the OS's own shortcuts, just to mention one obvious reason). You need to default to the OS's defaults, and maybe have an option to try using another OS's defaults (like other IDEs do).

Post by waqar144 » Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 6:24 AM UTC

donatj wrote: post #94

It’s been a long time since I have used Kate. I see it is stealing design elements from VSCode just like JetBrains UIs decided to. That really disappoints me. I really don’t get the point of doing so. If I wanted to use VSCode, I’d use VSCode rather than the knock off. Why not have a distinct visual identity for crying out loud.

Post by waqar144 » Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 6:30 AM UTC

rubymamis wrote: post #130

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Simple reason: Because the package is not optimized for that. It can be shrinked more, but that needs help. And I must confess, I rather spend my time on bug fixes than space optimizations.

Hey, Kate is awesome! Didn't mean to bring you down or anything. I myself got some trimming to do for my own apps. Keep up the good work. BTW, any idea how Kate is so fast? Is there an architecture explanation somewhere? Is it based on Scintilla? I'm on a block editor[1] in Qt C++ and QML so that kind of information will be helpful. [1] https://www.get-plume.com/

Post by rubymamis » Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 7:14 AM UTC

waqar144 wrote: post #135

rubymamis wrote: post #130

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Hey, Kate is awesome! Didn't mean to bring you down or anything. I myself got some trimming to do for my own apps. Keep up the good work. BTW, any idea how Kate is so fast? Is there an architecture explanation somewhere? Is it based on Scintilla? I'm on a block editor[1] in Qt C++ and QML so that kind of information will be helpful. [1] https://www.get-plume.com/

the architecture is really simple. The buffer contigously stores a list of "blocks". Each block contains a small number of actual text lines (usually 64-128). Thus if you edit a line, we only need to update the block containing the line. Once a block grows bigger than a certain number of lines, we split it into two.

Post by account42 » Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 9:30 AM UTC

adrian_b wrote: post #103

The_Colonel wrote: post #79

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KDE4 is a sad story. It ruined the reputation of KDE for a very long time. I loved KDE 3.5, but then came back to KDE only in 2021. It's mostly just a problem of communication. KDE 4.0 should not have been marked as stable and should not been used by distros. If they baked KDE4 for two more years and on the side maintained/developed 3.5, the transition might be much smoother.

While there were some bugs in early KDE 4, those were not the main problem. No amount of baking could have saved it. The main problem was caused by the completely different purposes of the new developers, who have removed all the outstanding customization features of KDE 3.5. For me, indeed KDE 3.5 has been the best graphic desktop that I have ever seen. Neither before, nor after and neither on Apple or Windows have…