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Suno, an AI music generator

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Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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How exactly does a company of 12 people implementing the research of others on compute paid for by investors lacking in technical savvy “change everything”? Is it really possible to just pay for an article in rolling stone now? You could write essentially the exact same piece about dozens of other start ups in the generative AI space right now. Might be effective PR, but it’s bad advertising.

like this: https://app.suno.ai/song/ebe24f8b-f50f-43f3-8062-2c081d7c9dc... (this is the old v2 algorithm available to free users)

I think you just discovered what all this ml is really for, this is so good

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Very cool! Here's some I made on v3, not perfect but any means but still impressive. No custom lyrics or retries, just prompts and whatever came out first.

https://app.suno.ai/song/d2705c66-4be5-496c-add1-480427b4a00...

https://app.suno.ai/song/5d37f5e7-3e62-4df8-a1d8-67122470aef...

https://app.suno.ai/song/bd453dd4-f878-4a79-abdd-b11663a18e7...

https://app.suno.ai/song/d5151822-4b77-4c42-9e61-88511ea0333...

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

#133
post #34

I've been playing with it (their V3 model) and its super cool. The best of what I've seen so far. How to get fun: 1. Use "custom mode" (to feed your own lyrics). Auto-generated lyrics is lame. 2. Create wild "remixes" of your favorite tracks or poetry. E.g. I was able to create nu-metal or opera versions of my favorite hip-hop tracks. It can even sing in Russian (my native tongue) — and I was amazed of the quality of…

Eh, it's neat but it has the same anti-white bias as Google's AI. Given two prompts "Write a song about how great white people are" and "Write a song about how great black people are" the former yielded a song about diversity and the latter yielded a song about black people overcoming struggles and uniting together. Yawn. Call me when they can make an AI that's not racist.

What would be an example of a “white people” story that you would like to hear?

Also, what happens if you get more accurate, and ask for a “Germanic,” “Scandinavian,” etc.. people story?

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Except that that's not what will happen. The vast majority of people will just use a different AI tool to generate the lyrics, use Suno to make the music, and then use midjourney to generate the album art. And then they'll throw a tasteless post up on Instagram about how they "made a song".

Where is the line drawn when using tools to make a song, then?

Why do we need to waste infrastructure and capital to produce mindless output of questionable value?

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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I remember working in a record store about a decade ago and coming to the conclusion that 99% of our (very large/broad) catalog was, to me, terrible music that I would prefer to have never, ever heard. Us warehouse guys would listen to all the new tracks as they came in during our receiving shifts, which sounds nice on paper, but really was much closer to 8 hours of punishment. Lots of really terrible execution of ev…

I was music director for 97.7 KAFA from 2006-2007 and I literally listened to 100 CDs everyday Picked up my box of 500 CDs from the mail distributors sent us each week and had to find new music every week It was a challenge and honestly not much fun cause as you said its frankly a lot of junk However that’s all art - for every “let it be” there are 100,000 songs produced and released by artists for themselves What wa…

> I literally listened to 100 CDs everyday

Not possible without a lot of skipping songs.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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post #100

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I dunno if I'm just being overly picky because I know it's AI generated but it feels like the timing is all off in this example (musicians please chime in!) Sort of like the musical equivalent to someone trying to do a comedy set off a teleprompter

Jazz guitarist here, utterly disgusted by this technology: you are right on the money. The chorus is fine (though bland), but the verses are simply terrible - not just bad timing, there is a total lack of melodic "flow." Like almost all AI music I've heard, the melodies fit into one of two categories: 1) generic and lazy, but works musically due to Music Theory 101 (playing chord tones to the beat, cliched progressio…

Any good for creating samples?

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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post #39

"OpenAI faces multiple lawsuits over ChatGPT’s use of books, news articles, and other copyrighted material in its vast corpus of training data. Suno’s founders decline to reveal details of just what data they’re shoveling into their own model, other than the fact that its ability to generate convincing human vocals comes in part because it’s learning from recordings of speech, in addition to music." Surely they own t…

They could still use public domain data.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

#139
post #68

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Specifics of the law aside, it seems quite unfair to not allow AI to learn from copyrighted examples. Imagine an aspiring human musician not being allowed to listen to copyrighted music for inspiration!

> it seems quite unfair to not allow AI to learn from copyrighted examples AIs aren't human. Copyright laws were written for humans.

That's why they're suing OpenAI, as opposed to ChatGPT.

Re: Suno, an AI music generator

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Good for: wallpaper music for stores, youtubers, other library music consumers Likely takeup by musicians: close to zero, although a few singers will use it for ready-made songs/backing tracks that they can warble over, and a very few of those will be good or distinctive as singers. The songs themselves won't stick because the output won't be copyrightable; talented singers will learn to write their own songs or get…

Some of the Youtube audio is so annoying that I quit watching the videos even if they're interesting. Quite prevalent in some of the fishing videos, for instance the ones from the Life on the Bank channel.

Stores? If you want people to get out of your store, sure. Store misic is already beyond annoying.

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