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Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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Post by mrguyorama »

noir_lord wrote: post #112
vmfunction wrote: post #105

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The lesson for the modern ago. Don't put stuff into digital form if you want privacy! Some places don't allow use of smart phone. They actually ask you check your phone into a coat check type thing at door! One journalist friend often leaves the smart phone at home.

Never did. It wasn't paranoia it was a healthy dose of "if this is possible, someone is doing it" Turned out they in fact were doing it.

More like : If it is not explicitly illegal and aggressively enforced by someone, a business will attempt it, regardless of whether it makes money or not.

Everything else is fair game apparently.

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Post by mrguyorama »

imiric wrote: post #87
NSMutableSet wrote: post #84

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>How do you reasonably do this? You would have to spend an incredible amount of effort creating fake data everywhere, without having any clue if what you're doing is even working. With new AI tools and technologies You answered your own question.

Not really. AI wasn't an option until very recently. How was this managed before? And even with AI, it would take a considerable amount of effort to flood all public channels with fake data. Do you do this via APIs for every service? Do you generate image and video as well? You would still have no idea whether your efforts are actually working. Not to mention that using this approach contributes noise to an already n…

>How was this managed before?

By being rich enough to hire dedicated companies who provide this service. Reputation management it is sometimes called.

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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Post by tedajax »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #69
_factor wrote: post #38

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Related, proofpoint is notorious for this as well. They will block your mail server without cause, forcing you through their process of delisting. Pay and your problems magically go away. Proofpoint was consistently the only block hit.

Tbf putting up cash is a great signal for 'not a spammer'.

Not really it's just a cost of doing business and if paying that cost "legitimizes" you then the ROI is probably significant.

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Post by marcosdumay »

Dudhbbh3343 wrote: post #98
EasyMark wrote: post #91

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the last guy who stole an Amazon box off my porch didn't put up a school for my kids, the road in front of my house, help the homeless guy I gave my second burger to the other day get out of the cold, make sure the water out of my tap didn't kill me, etc

Many large drug cartels pay for schools, give out food to the poor, and control some forms of crime to increase public support or at least prevent their protest. Once organized crime gets big enough, it's really difficult to distinguish from a weak government.

We call those "paragovernamental organizations", for obvious reasons.

If they get too powerful, we just drop the "para" on that name.

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

20after4 wrote: post #126
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #109

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>And when they autofill that value with 1, amazingly enough the law is more clever than programmers assume it is, and the clever dodges programmers come up with tend to be seen through and just lead to jail time. Prime Exhibit - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser

I don't understand how Hans Reiser is an example of this. He was convicted of murder and nothing about his case (that I could find) seems to indicate that he used "clever dodges" to skirt the law.

if one followed the case at the time Reiser seemed very much the stereotype of the really superclever person who figured they were smarter than all those dumb folks who were never going to catch him and it all fell apart real quick.

Then when it fell apart he dropped back to arguing he just looked guilty because he was too smart to look innocent or something https://yro.slashdot.org/story/08/02/23/2218256/hans-reiser-...

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2010/08/02/review-from-a-report... >He thought he was smarter than everyone else, but ultimately he was not

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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Post by docmars »

I find it funny when things like these happen, while conspiracy theorists get lambasted for calling out much less nefarious schemes (with evidence), only to be proven right weeks or months later when a "more official" source confirms it after gaslighting them for that period in between.

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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Post by berniedurfee »

dheera wrote: post #94
j-bos wrote: post #17

This kind of thing feels better left to trusted 1st parties, oneself. Link to a list of data broker opt out methods: https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-Li...

I used Onerep until I was told it was shady. I now use Optery ( https://www.optery.com/ ) which is a YC company. I'd love to hear if there are any issues with it. The problem is there are 200+ data brokers out there and I don't have time to deal with that many.

Why is it monthly? What happens if you don’t renew?

Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms

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Post by dpkirchner »

notclive wrote: post #73
dpkirchner wrote: post #51

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Ideally a regulator would intervene, demanding that the data provider prove that each person in their database has explicitly opted in. That should be really easy for these companies -- it's just another record to include in our files. If they can't prove it, they must delete all related data.

What does proof look like? On past projects we've recorded the time the user submitted a from (with a checked consent checkbox), but this doens't feel like rigorous proof.

A scanned signature would work, I think, on a form mailed in by the user. The form would need to be clearly identified as coming from the data broker but could be provided by the company ultimately seeking your data.

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Post by Terr_ »

mr_toad wrote: post #129
zarzavat wrote: post #118

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He is a well known proponent of the technique: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_strategy > There is one thing that is absolutely certain about throwing a dead cat on the dining room table – and I don’t mean that people will be outraged, alarmed, disgusted. That is true, but irrelevant. The key point, says my Australian friend, is that everyone will shout, ‘Jeez, mate, there’s a dead cat on the table!’ In other…

Seems like a variation of starting a war to distract from domestic issues.

"Wag the Dead Cat?"

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog)

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