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Radicle: Open-Source, Peer-to-Peer, GitHub Alternative

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Re: Radicle: Open-Source, Peer-to-Peer, GitHub Alternative

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Post by beardicus »

chefandy wrote: post #130

Their monetization strategy is pretty critical for people who’d sink their time into the service and entrust it with the code for long-running projects. So… how do they plan on making money off of this? If they can’t or won’t say, what sort of projects do they imagine they’d attract in spite of that? (e.g. ephemeral ones? Data sets about current events?) Downvoters: do you not think their monetization strategy is imp…

this is a very VC-brained comment to make on a peer-to-peer open source project. let's instead ask if there are any single points of failure to the protocol and service, and if so, are those sustainable regarding developer time, effort, and compensation?

Re: Radicle: Open-Source, Peer-to-Peer, GitHub Alternative

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Post by chefandy »

beardicus wrote: post #131
chefandy wrote: post #130

Their monetization strategy is pretty critical for people who’d sink their time into the service and entrust it with the code for long-running projects. So… how do they plan on making money off of this? If they can’t or won’t say, what sort of projects do they imagine they’d attract in spite of that? (e.g. ephemeral ones? Data sets about current events?) Downvoters: do you not think their monetization strategy is imp…

this is a very VC-brained comment to make on a peer-to-peer open source project. let's instead ask if there are any single points of failure to the protocol and service, and if so, are those sustainable regarding developer time, effort, and compensation?

> this is a very VC-brained comment to make on a peer-to-peer open source project. let's instead ask if there are any single points of failure to the protocol and service, and if so, are those sustainable regarding developer time, effort, and compensation?

Crunchbase said they raised at least 12m as a “fully decentralized code repository”. I’d say presenting your open source project without saying it’s VC-backed is the only “VC-Brained” thing happening here.

Re: Radicle: Open-Source, Peer-to-Peer, GitHub Alternative

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Post by megamix »

Hendrikto wrote: post #98
megamix wrote: post #95

What about codeberg.org?

What about it? It‘s an almost completely different product. Codeberg is like GitHub.com, GitLab.com, or sr.ht: a centralized hosted solution.

Ah I see, I've not worked with any, however I do become curious about anything labeled as "Github alternative".

I know this movement since Github started with their "doubtful code scanning" that people are looking towards alternatives.

Not the least: good job!

Re: Radicle: Open-Source, Peer-to-Peer, GitHub Alternative

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Post by _flux »

I wonder how discoverable (for normal people) these repositories are. It looks like https://app.radicle.xyz/robots.txt doesn't exist, so it seems like fair game for search engines, and indeed a search on Google and DDG for

    site:app.radicle.xyz
does give some results. Maybe not that high up yet if not using that site filter, perhaps the ranking will improve?

Tools for integrating CI support with this would also be nice to see. Ultimately a loop with

    while true; do wait_repo_update; git pull && ./run_ci.sh; done
but something nicer that you could only limit to pushes by trusted identities.

And then finally artifact storage. But maybe Radicle doesn't need to solve everything, in particular as a distributed network for sharing large binaries is going to get some undesirable uses pretty fast..

Re: Radicle: Open-Source, Peer-to-Peer, GitHub Alternative

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Post by philsnow »

perihelions wrote: post #128

That's a neat name! If "seeding" is the word for distribution in a peer-to-peer network, then a "radicle" (not a "radical"!) must be named after: - "In botany, the radicle is the first part of a seedling (a growing plant embryo) to emerge from the seed during the process of germination.[1]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radicle

Going to be pretty confusing between Radicle and Radicale ( https://radicale.org/v3.html )

Re: Radicle: Open-Source, Peer-to-Peer, GitHub Alternative

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Post by circusfly »

1. Lower left, device isn't connected? What device?

2. Domain ends with the nonsensical .xyz, my email server would block all email traffic from them.

3. The default dark theme isn't readable by about 40% of the human population. It can be changed to a light theme, that's nice, but the light theme is some sort of puke light purple.

4. "Run the following command and follow the instructions to install Radicle and get started." I have to use your custom tool called "rad"?

No thanks. Even though GitHub is owned by Microsoft, I'd rather use it.

Re: Radicle: Open-Source, Peer-to-Peer, GitHub Alternative

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Post by k8svet »

lftherios wrote: post #15

Hi HN. I am the co-founder of the project. If you are interested in how the protocol works under the hood, start here: https://docs.radicle.xyz/ Docs are still WIP though.

Does this v3 iteration mean that if I pull Radicle from nixpkgs right now that I might be a major version behind?

Re: Radicle: Open-Source, Peer-to-Peer, GitHub Alternative

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Post by maninak »

clot27 wrote: post #132

My question isnt related to radical but P2P in these sense in general, Why should I store someone else's data and why should someone else store my data? doesnt it make it easy to access?

That's a great Q.

Radicle can support a federated model, where known major seeds are connected with multiple smaller clusters. Radicle supports also completely self-sustaining and disconnected clusters of nodes networked between themselves within that cluster. And of course any other network topography in between.

There's a promising active proposal to establish a dedicated new Radworks Organization tasked with solving the incentivization and reward problem for seeds. https://community.radworks.org/t/discussion-rgp-22-start-the...

Additionally, similar to how one can "star" a repo on GitHub, one can "seed" a repo on Radicle. "Starring" a repo is often a toast of support, akin to an emoji reaction, with little more effect other than that, but in Radicle "seeding" a project, goes beyond incrementing a vanity metric: it actively supports propagating that project across the Radicle network. The count of seedings per repo can also be used as a differentiator between original and "copy-cat" ones.

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