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Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by nirav72 »

sanex wrote: post #125
mavamaarten wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really happy with immich. It's amazing how well everything works and how feature-complete it is given how relatively young the project is and fast-moving development is going. I self-host an instance and do a nightly backup with duplicati to cloud storage. The only downside for me is that there's a new release almost every couple of days, with a message that the backend is out of date. Which is both a pro and a c…

Been running immich for a while but haven't dropped my Google photos just to make sure I can manage immich and not lose everything. Updated from 1.8.something to 1.9something which includes a big db rework and lost all my user accounts. I imagine the photos are still in there somewhere but i haven't dug in yet so they're effectively gone. Lost a lot of trust for me with that even though it was probably my fault.

I keep seeing immich mentioned a lot in selfhosting community. Is there a mobile app that can connect to the selfhosted backend server?

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by tjoff »

New to me, looks nice. But I'm a bit perplexed by the lack of functionality regarding group access.

You typically want to have a place for your family to manage your photos. A completely separate one for friends etc. Yet I don't see that usecase represented in software such like this (thinking of apps such as Immich, Ente seems quite similar). Managing your own photos is rather trivial in comparison, just need to sync your folder and 90% of the functionality is done.

And that is before the usecase of collaborating between participants on a trip. Or letting guests upload pictures for an event (such as a wedding). Such a hassle.

From the site: "Sync your library with your partner, and even designate them as an heir to your account." Nice, but not exactly it.

> "Can I share my subscription with family and friends? You can add up to 5 family members and share your available storage space with them at no extra cost. Each member will get their own private space, and can only access their own photos."

Almost like it goes out of their way to not support this. Seems like such low-hanging fruit. I get that storage costs could become an issue, but in a self-hosting scenario that is not a problem.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by aptwebapps »

random_ind_dude wrote: post #118
keerthiko wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tangential, is this intended to be pronounced like "എന്റെ", judging by your HN handle? Stoked to run into a fellow mallu founder of a consumer product. A huge fan of how the product/business is being run.

എന്റെ.അയ്യോ to be exact. :D (എന്റെ means mine, and അയ്യോ is a word used to express surprise). I remember the Show HN and I'm glad to see them grow.

deva.me being already taken, I guess.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by vishnumohandas »

stockhorn wrote: post #119

I gave the webapp and android app a quick test. It looks nice, but it is still not as smooth as google photos or similar. E.g. the photos are not preloaded fully and I still need to wait a few milliseconds to get a photo fully rendered. (Also there is some white flickering when swiping through the photos on android) I wonder how the big players do it. Of course they have a lot more manpower, but maybe the also have s…

Thanks for checking us out!

We currently keep 2 versions of a photo - one the original, and the other a downscaled copy to be rendered as the thumbnail.

Unlike non-e2ee providers, we cannot transcode and serve optimised images on the fly, when it's faster to downscale than serve the original image over network.

What we could do is

1. Intelligently preload original photos when their thumbnails are in scope

2. Store an extra version of the photo, whose resolution is between that of the thumbnail and the original, and perform #1 over those

Sorry about the flicker, will fix it.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by claypant »

prmoustache wrote: post #98

I don't think this service is End-to-End encrypted the way we would like to think it is. If you can share pictures with friends by just giving them a link to a page, the server app has the encryption keys too.

nope, if you put info after `#` on a url, the browser wont share that info with the server. Excalidraw use this technique to allow users to share encrypted data with other users

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by vishnumohandas »

tjoff wrote: post #132

New to me, looks nice. But I'm a bit perplexed by the lack of functionality regarding group access. You typically want to have a place for your family to manage your photos. A completely separate one for friends etc. Yet I don't see that usecase represented in software such like this (thinking of apps such as Immich, Ente seems quite similar). Managing your own photos is rather trivial in comparison, just need to syn…

Hey, we do support the use cases you mentioned!

1. Album collaboration: https://ente.io/blog/collaborative-albums/

2. Photo collection: https://ente.io/blog/collect-photos/

Please let me know if I missed something. Sharing is an important feature for all of us, and we would love to get it right.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by vishnumohandas »

aarjithn wrote: post #128
vishnumohandas wrote: post #32

Hey, Ente's CEO here. We had opensourced our server[1] yesterday, which is perhaps why we are on the front page. Stoked to be here Ente had launched on HN[2] a while ago and has been sustainably growing since. We took the feedback from our Show HN seriously and have since - undergone a cryptography audit [3] - published our replication strategy [4] - added requested features (family plans, collaborative albums and li…

Hey, a fellow mallu, just wanted to send my appreciation on the product. It literally looks great, my kudos to your illustrator and FE developers. Best wishes!

Thank you for your kind words, will forward them :)

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by layer8 »

daeros wrote: post #47

NAS is so damn expensive, I'm still planning on building a PLEX media server myself and using it was way. Those QNAP things pushing 2500 for the 4k transcode things it's like OK at that point I can build something myself that has way more of the features I'd want and have way more customizability.

The sensible thing is to separate NAS from transcoding. Use NAS only for storage, and solve your computational needs with a mini PC or even just a RasPi.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by tjoff »

vishnumohandas wrote: post #136
tjoff wrote: post #132

New to me, looks nice. But I'm a bit perplexed by the lack of functionality regarding group access. You typically want to have a place for your family to manage your photos. A completely separate one for friends etc. Yet I don't see that usecase represented in software such like this (thinking of apps such as Immich, Ente seems quite similar). Managing your own photos is rather trivial in comparison, just need to syn…

Hey, we do support the use cases you mentioned! 1. Album collaboration: https://ente.io/blog/collaborative-albums/ 2. Photo collection: https://ente.io/blog/collect-photos/ Please let me know if I missed something. Sharing is an important feature for all of us, and we would love to get it right.

That is great :) I will look into it, from a first glance collaboration seems to only be on a per album basis? Can you have nested albums?

For a group of friends / family you'd probably want many tens of albums tracking different trips/events etc.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by quicon »

I'm a customer of Ente since more than a year ago. I transferred my 30K photos from Google Photos without a problem. Very happy with this product. While some functionalities where missing at the beginning (powerful editor, sharing, collaborating, search) the Mobile and desktop apps have improved a lot, and continue to do so. Today, I do not miss Google Photos.
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