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Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
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Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#132Woof. I was considering kicking the tires on Netlify, but they are officially out of consideration now.
Doesn't make me feel great about Vercel either (which I was looking at)
Why? If you use Vercel in the Free Tier you cannot automatically go to the Pro tier.
You need to manually upgrade.
Unless you need more than the Free-Tier Vercel should be fine.
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s not because hosting instances doesn’t actually cost Amazon anything Except it doesn't cost them anything. The marginal cost of keeping your single instance running is $0 (unless they were 100% out of capacity and they could have sold that instance to someone else either at full price or spot price)
Electricity costs money
The electricity overhead of keeping an idle VM on an already running host is nearly zero though.
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#134There's a reason price plans are 'pay as you go' - so that they don't take on any risk for things like this. Moral of the story: never go for pay as you go by usage plans if this scenario is not mitigated through a third party. By no means am I trying to suggest a get out for Netlify here - more a rule of thumb for anyone worried the same could happen to them.
When you sign up for their "Free tier" there are no big red warning that they can charge you $100,000 out of the blue.
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#135Since the author has gone viral I expect some netlify exec is going to take over and write this bill off to $0. In the words of Kramer “these big companies, they just write it off!” A moment of silence for the people who got DDoS-ed, didn’t go viral and still had to pay $5k.
You don't even know what a write-off is.
But they do. And they’re the ones writing it off.
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#136This is my worst nightmare as a bootstrapped founder. And that there's no way to put a limit on spend is ridiculous. Someone that doesn't want me to do well can simply ddos me into bankruptcy out of nowhere. Just went through Vercel's docs: --- "Vercel helps to mitigate against L3 and L4 DDoS attacks at the platform level. Usage will be incurred for requests that are successfully served prior to us automatically miti…
If you want to sleep tight just get a dedicated server or VPS from something like Hetzner and/or combine with CDN providers like BunnyCDN - set up alerts just in case though. It takes more time and resources to manage it but you could save a lot on it in this case.
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#139> And since my amount is too large, they offer to discount to 5%, which means I still need to pay 5 thousand dollars. If they just reduce to 5% like that, it shows how disconnected this is from their real bandwidth cost. Really does feel like a scam.
>it shows how disconnected this is from their real bandwidth cost
It's a value added service, they don't trade bandwidth as a commodity. Therefore unfair characterisation.
Plus, if you dive deeper: Bandwidth doesn't cost anything because bandwidth is just about pulsing some light in some glass fiber and applying some minuscule voltage on some metal fiber.Okay, maybe it costs some amount of electricity but all this is just a business model for paying on capital expenditure through time share arrangements. People can have all kind of models for this, for example you can come together with others or pay it all by yourself to install the equipment and have free bandwidth for the lifetime of the equipment.
It's all just arrangements to cover the capital investment and earn something on top of it. That's not a scam. A scam would be if they didn't account correctly for the timeshare usage or induce usage to boost payments.
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#140This is my worst nightmare as a bootstrapped founder. And that there's no way to put a limit on spend is ridiculous. Someone that doesn't want me to do well can simply ddos me into bankruptcy out of nowhere. Just went through Vercel's docs: --- "Vercel helps to mitigate against L3 and L4 DDoS attacks at the platform level. Usage will be incurred for requests that are successfully served prior to us automatically miti…
Imagine you lost your job. So you are here enjoying creating and hosting your hobby projects in theses services. Now, suddenly one fine morning you get slapped with $104K bill because someone decided to randomly ddos your one page dog lover website.
Now, who in the would would be thinking of having ddos protection for their hobby project? This is just absurd thinking.