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Re: Mistral Large

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Post by jasonjmcghee »

michaelt wrote: post #89
jasonjmcghee wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this true? I know a whole lot of people that use and fine tune Mistral / variants and they all use OpenAI too. (For other projects or for ChatGPT) From my perspective, I want to use the best model. But maybe as models improve and for certain use cases that will start to change. If I work on a project that has certain parts that are fulfilled by Mistral and can reduce cost, that's cool. I'm surprised how expensive…

What you say is kinda an example of what I mean. You say you know people who use and fine tune Mistral / variants You know what you can't do with Mistral Large? Fine tune it, or use variants.

I was mostly trying to say, in my experience, people who use open models don't only use open models.

But I guess I'm hearing you say now, a key point was- the attractive part about Mistral was the open model aspect.

But it's difficult to pay expenses and wages if you can't charge money.

Re: fine tuning- hard for me to believe they won't add it eventually.

Re: Mistral Large

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Post by Invictus0 »

Prompt: where does donald trump live

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In addition to his residence in Trump Tower, Donald Trump also owns a number of other properties around the world, including homes in Florida, New Jersey, and Scotland.

When he was President of the United States, Donald Trump resided in the White House, which is located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, D.C. The White House is the official residence and workplace of the President of the United States. It has been the residence of every U.S. President since John Adams in 1800. The White House contains a number of rooms and offices, including the Oval Office, which is the President's official office, and the private residence, which is where the President and his family live.

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This is wrong, Trump declared himself a resident of florida in 2019 and lives at Mar a Lago primarily. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/us/politics/trump-new-yor...

Re: Mistral Large

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Post by [deleted] »

behnamoh wrote: post #7
rntc wrote: post #2

Looks like open-source is just a marketing tool for AI companies before they have a good enough model to sell. I guess we have to look for what Meta is going to do with LlaMA 3.

I've been saying this for months but every time I get down voted for saying it. It annoys me that people fall for these marketing tactics and keep promoting and advertising the product for free. It's not just the models though- even tools that started off as open source ended up aiming for VC and stopped being totally open. Examples: LlamaIndex, Langchain, and most likely Ollama.

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Re: Mistral Large

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Post by Havoc »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #94

It's a really tough sell. They are charging 80% of GPT 4, and are below in the benchmark. I will only use overall best model or the best open weights model or the cheapest which could do the task. And it's none of the three in almost any scenario.

That’s a sure way to end up with a global monopoly and no competitive open models. Things like mixtral on open side rely on companies like mistral existing.

Re: Mistral Large

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Post by speedgoose »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #119
speedgoose wrote: post #58

I appreciate the honesty in the marketing materials. Showing the product scoring below the market leader in a big benchmark is better than the Google way of cherry picking benchmarks.

They compare to Gemini Pro 1.0... Seems intentionally misleading.

Right. Gemini Pro 1.5 scores 81.9% on MMLU and is also above in a few other benchmarks.

Re: Mistral Large

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Post by cyrusradfar »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #119
speedgoose wrote: post #58

I appreciate the honesty in the marketing materials. Showing the product scoring below the market leader in a big benchmark is better than the Google way of cherry picking benchmarks.

They compare to Gemini Pro 1.0... Seems intentionally misleading.

1.5 was probably released too late to be tested.

Re: Mistral Large

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Post by simonw »

Feature request for Mistral API maintainers: the https://api.mistral.ai/v1/models API endpoint returns all of the language models and mistral-embed as well, but there's currently nothing in the JSON to help distinguish that embedding models from the others: https://github.com/simonw/llm-mistral/issues/5#issuecomment-...

It would be useful if there was an indication of which models are embedding models.

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