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Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by neom »

DiscourseFan wrote: post #75
jp57 wrote: post #63

People still don't realize how many things from the last fifteen years were LIRPs. Low interest rate phenomena doomed the moment investors can get a halfway-decent yield from fixed-income investments.

Its odd to think that both Silicon Valley and Vice were from the same phenomenon, but it does track (radical entrepreneurial libertarian "world-changing" businesses). But yeah, the whole neoliberal environment just produced a lot of bullshit in the end (in the developed countries). But I don't think, fortunately, the reaction to neoliberalism is going to stymy creativity at all, I think many are ready to embrace a ne…

You might enjoy Patrick Collison in this interview that was just published with him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU-lBOAS1VQ

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by karaterobot »

TMWNN wrote: post #12
rvz wrote: post #4

Well Vice.com destroyed themselves after the founder left and was taken over. Ever since, they ran themselves into the ground and raised so much money all for what? Only for their website to be shut down after being bankrupt. All faster than their own deranged Twitter / X collapse predictions. Nothing of value was lost.

>Nothing of value was lost. Place your bets on what will die next. HuffPo? Vox? Salon (which I know had a near-death experience a few years ago; I doubt its financial health is any better now)?

You know, Vice had some genuinely great and groundbreaking journalism when it started out. I don't know if that was pure luck, or whether it started out as its best self and then regressed to the mean. On the other hand, Slate started out mediocre and has butt-scooted along the ground for decades, while Vox and HuffPo were just trash from day one. We lost something that could have been of value with Vice, even if we lost it a long time ago. But with the others, good riddance.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by hughesjj »

Scoundreller wrote: post #32
nextaccountic wrote: post #21

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

> It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway I 100% don't get it when websites with lots of content and good SEO just delete everything. Fatwallet (fuck you Rakuten). Yahoo Answers (hey, I didn't say good content). Even on my own Drupal blogs that I didn't want to maintain/update anymore, I did a giant curl job, recursively regex'd out the login/comment submission fields and dumped them on…

This stuff should go to the national archives imo. Same with reddit and hacker news.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by wombat-man »

The28thDuck wrote: post #6

They ran out of dangerous places to do designer drugs. In all honesty, Vice was a cool outlet for out-there stories for teens and adults alike. Shame it’s shutting down but then again I never supported it.

I thought it was a lot of fun earlier on with their magazine and tales of underworld stuff.

They really screwed up by trying to become some kind of media empire. Was a bad sign when they made a cable channel.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by 1-6 »

I think it’s another victim of YouTube. I liked VICE’s content in the early days but it couldn’t really compete with all the content produced by individuals who were closer to the epicenter of conflict. Let it be.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by fullshark »

jp57 wrote: post #63

People still don't realize how many things from the last fifteen years were LIRPs. Low interest rate phenomena doomed the moment investors can get a halfway-decent yield from fixed-income investments.

It’s also naivety re: the way the internet attention economy would work out. Yahoo and tons of media companies thought the strategy was to pay people to create content, to get eyeballs. The strategy was actually to create a platform for narcissists to create tons of content people want to read for free to get eyeballs.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by captainkrtek »

nisa wrote: post #61

I'm thankful for the Russian roulette series. Showed the brutality of war in Ukraine in 2014. Some scenes I won't forget. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw613M86o5o7a0FGlPRdt47xi...

I recall watching this series as each episode dropped, truly memorable journalism showing history in the making. Also emailed with Simon Ostrovsky years later, very nice guy.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by slantedview »

paxys wrote: post #29
nextaccountic wrote: post #21

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

Who said they are not letting the site stay online?

It wasn't in this post, but it was a separate rumor that the site would be deleted. This sounds crazy, but is exactly what other digital publications have done recently.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by foreverobama »

DiscourseFan wrote: post #75
jp57 wrote: post #63

People still don't realize how many things from the last fifteen years were LIRPs. Low interest rate phenomena doomed the moment investors can get a halfway-decent yield from fixed-income investments.

Its odd to think that both Silicon Valley and Vice were from the same phenomenon, but it does track (radical entrepreneurial libertarian "world-changing" businesses). But yeah, the whole neoliberal environment just produced a lot of bullshit in the end (in the developed countries). But I don't think, fortunately, the reaction to neoliberalism is going to stymy creativity at all, I think many are ready to embrace a ne…

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Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by E39M5S62 »

Scoundreller wrote: post #77
greenknight wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or even Digg... Lots of comments and discussions lost.

This is why I post on slashdot. They've passed the test of time (but not UIs, fuck beta). Looks like their first posts in '97 start here: https://slashdot.org/?page=8582 dunno what their december 31st, 1969 posts are after that (errors? intentional de-ranking?) Newspapers have a bad history of "experimenting" with enabling online comments and then deciding the experiment failed and delete them all. You're a newspaper…

The last time I looked at Slashdot comments (2021, give or take) they were low-effort trolls, racist/sexist, or just gibberish. Has moderation improved there or is it still a cesspool?
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