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Re: Wyze security incident update

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Post by hubblesticks »

kevinsync wrote: post #49
firefalcon222 wrote: post #35

Not my project but I have had great success with https://github.com/gtxaspec/wz_mini_hacks & V3 model. The V3 models need to be downgraded to a specific firmware first and patching it exposes RSTP streams using https://github.com/AlexxIT/go2rtc . Everything doable without ever installing Wyze app on an environment air gapped environment with no internet.

I'm having great success with half a dozen v3's in tandem -- for $30 a camera, the quality is really unbeatable -- setup / notes below. 1. all cameras (firmware v4.36.9.139) have 64gb+ micro SD cards and record to local storage -- many people seem to have issues with anything greater than 32gb in v3's but I've found that this Verbatim tool [0] formats FAT32 at high capacity with no problems 2. all cameras have wz_min…

This is highly helpful, thank you! Was wanting to build something like this.

Do you have any Wyze cams outdoors, but under cover of a porch? Or are they indoor only?

Re: Wyze security incident update

#132

Post by voakbasda »

Cheer2171 wrote: post #121
voakbasda wrote: post #75

Another in a long line of reasons to avoid low price, off-the-shelf, unauditable, cloud-enabled cameras. I continue to be amazed that there is not a reasonably priced, open source, audited, local-first solution, which doesn’t require a significant personal investment of time to install and maintain.

I swear sometimes you people post this ignorance bait to get product suggestions. Local-first cameras are super cheap and easy to find. Most just run their own local RTSP server, which you can connect to live with VLC, homeassistant, whatever. OpenIPC is like ddwrt for ip cameras, here is the supported devices page: https://github.com/OpenIPC/wiki/blob/master/en/guide-support... But unless you're Richard Stallman, go…

You yourself just admitted that there "isn't a really great open source platform", so what exactly was ignorant about my request?

I have spent days searching for an affordable solution that meets my requirements. I know there are a lot of people that want the same thing, have done their own research, and have reached a similar conclusion. What we want simply does not exist.

I will stop posting this kind of comment when someone finally gives me a straight answer, but no one has done that yet.

Re: Wyze security incident update

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Post by hughesjj »

voakbasda wrote: post #75

Another in a long line of reasons to avoid low price, off-the-shelf, unauditable, cloud-enabled cameras. I continue to be amazed that there is not a reasonably priced, open source, audited, local-first solution, which doesn’t require a significant personal investment of time to install and maintain.

Personally I'm using Shinobi[1], but I've heard good things about frigate too if you're more into the ai detection and HA integration. There's a proxmox helper script one liner guided installation of you're into that [2]

[1] https://gitlab.com/Shinobi-Systems/Shinobi

[2] https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/

Re: Wyze security incident update

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Post by fullstop »

notatoad wrote: post #39

“Don’t use Wyze” seems like the wrong takeaway from this. I’d go with “don’t put internet-connected cameras in your house if you don’t want those images on the internet”. I’ve got a Wyze in my garage looking over my mountain bikes, and for $35 I don’t really care if somebody else sees that image. But I’d never put one in my living space, regardless of their security track record.

I have mine pointed at a mouse trap. It's been super useful, honestly, but I would never point a camera like this into a living space.

Re: Wyze security incident update

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Post by fullstop »

dns_snek wrote: post #60
ls65536 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how many people would continue to so casually use these services if they understood that, for the most part, there is rarely proper end-to-end encryption of their data with these services. It is awfully disingenuous when these companies' marketing materials describe their services as "encrypted" when it usually just means there are two independent TLS pipes, which both terminate in their "cloud"; this surely…

Too many. I've consulted with friends who installed "smart" security cameras and other IoT devices. I really spelled it out, saying that there's a very real possibility that one day they'll find out someone's been listening in on all of their private conversations (audio) or watching them through their own cameras. Responses typically range from "I'm not that interesting" to "I really don't care". I think it's too ab…

Where do you charge your cell phone?

I totally agree with you, but then I put my phone on a qi charger on my nightstand and go to sleep. It's a device with both quality cameras and microphones, so I feel a little hypocritical given that there is a non-zero chance that someone could be listening or watching through my phone.

Re: Wyze security incident update

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Post by scosman »

voakbasda wrote: post #75

Another in a long line of reasons to avoid low price, off-the-shelf, unauditable, cloud-enabled cameras. I continue to be amazed that there is not a reasonably priced, open source, audited, local-first solution, which doesn’t require a significant personal investment of time to install and maintain.

Not open-source/audited, but Apple HomeKit Secure Video is light years ahead. Encrypted in-house on your own hardware (ATV or HomePod), they don't have the keys, excellent UX, hosted service, super easy to use. I'm all about the self host, but assuming Apple isn't straight up lying, they have build something that's too good and too easy. I buy cheapish HKSV cameras, and block them from accessing the WAN, so there's minimal Apple tax outside one hub.

Re: Wyze security incident update

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

voakbasda wrote: post #75

Another in a long line of reasons to avoid low price, off-the-shelf, unauditable, cloud-enabled cameras. I continue to be amazed that there is not a reasonably priced, open source, audited, local-first solution, which doesn’t require a significant personal investment of time to install and maintain.

NAS companies like synology have an offering too. The main problem is that they still live in 2012 when it comes to cpu power and sell vastly underpowered boxes

Re: Wyze security incident update

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Post by gnicholas »

hubblesticks wrote: post #131
kevinsync wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm having great success with half a dozen v3's in tandem -- for $30 a camera, the quality is really unbeatable -- setup / notes below. 1. all cameras (firmware v4.36.9.139) have 64gb+ micro SD cards and record to local storage -- many people seem to have issues with anything greater than 32gb in v3's but I've found that this Verbatim tool [0] formats FAT32 at high capacity with no problems 2. all cameras have wz_min…

This is highly helpful, thank you! Was wanting to build something like this. Do you have any Wyze cams outdoors, but under cover of a porch? Or are they indoor only?

I have some V3s outside, somewhat covered by a rain gutter. They definitely get wet when the rain comes down sideways. Never had a problem.

Re: Wyze security incident update

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Post by kevinsync »

hubblesticks wrote: post #131
kevinsync wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm having great success with half a dozen v3's in tandem -- for $30 a camera, the quality is really unbeatable -- setup / notes below. 1. all cameras (firmware v4.36.9.139) have 64gb+ micro SD cards and record to local storage -- many people seem to have issues with anything greater than 32gb in v3's but I've found that this Verbatim tool [0] formats FAT32 at high capacity with no problems 2. all cameras have wz_min…

This is highly helpful, thank you! Was wanting to build something like this. Do you have any Wyze cams outdoors, but under cover of a porch? Or are they indoor only?

They’re all outdoors, although at least partially covered by something (roof overhang, gutter, etc). The cameras themselves aren’t truly waterproof and do have a “grill” cut into the back panel for the internal speaker, but since I don’t use them for 2-way audio, you can seal that off with rubber cement, flexseal, rubber tape, etc. Mine have been fine in all four seasons.

That said, all the modifications and tinkering is definitely less turn-key than some people prefer, but I’m a glutton for punishment haha

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