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Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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This. Virtual Set Production is almost entirely Unreal engine. Fortnite is just a marketing platform. The real meat is the digital production pipeline that made Mando cool. That enabled Star Trek’s recent series’, and provides a “holodeck” for their just unveiled holo-floor.

I don't think Fortnite is just a marketing platform. They wouldn't have bothered suing Apple and Google over app stores if it were merely a loss leader to remind film execs that Unreal Engine is a thing.

I mean they have epic games store that competes with steam on windows. They likely want to be able to the same thing on phones.

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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I had the same reaction 20 years ago to Kingdom Hearts. Disney is definitely at risk of becoming irrelevant with their stale IP.

If instead of buying IP and stealing from public domain works they invested more into creating new IP they could actually make a lot of money. I'm sick of them being allowed to increase their entertainment monopoly on children instead of being told to just create new original works. It's not like they have a shortage of talented people...

It is not possible to steal from the public domain. That's the entire point of it.

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Epic games has the potential to be the virtual Disney World - just available to everyone on the planet instead of those with enough money to visit a park IRL. Disney has a great flywheel where their IP drives content, toys, and experiences. This is just the latest experience, and it’s something they can’t build themselves. I bet you can expect more content on fortnite to be with Disney IP; skins, events, maps, everyt…

I see huge potential for NFT integration as well. Imagine buying a Mickey Mouse skin in Fortnight and being able to use it in one of Epic Games' other games too. Lots of possibilities.

No one thinks NFTs have a future anywhere anymore, least of which in gaming. Nothing you described needs NFTs or crypto in any way either.

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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Epic games has the potential to be the virtual Disney World - just available to everyone on the planet instead of those with enough money to visit a park IRL. Disney has a great flywheel where their IP drives content, toys, and experiences. This is just the latest experience, and it’s something they can’t build themselves. I bet you can expect more content on fortnite to be with Disney IP; skins, events, maps, everyt…

I see huge potential for NFT integration as well. Imagine buying a Mickey Mouse skin in Fortnight and being able to use it in one of Epic Games' other games too. Lots of possibilities.

Oh man, remember NFTs? Glad that’s over.

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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1.) Unreal Engine can be used in VR... 2.) Virtual worlds don't need to be VR

Unreal Engine isn't a VR platform, it's a tool that can be used to create a VR platform. "The Platform" in this context is a position that allows you to collect ~30% fee of revenue generated. Unreal Engine's position is much much smaller. Using my definitions Epic gamestore technically counts as a VR platform, but isn't positioned to become market leader.

You're correct but being overly pedantic. Not only is Unreal one of the biggest engines chosen for use with VR games but it's also one of the easiest and most effective for modders to retroactively inject the ability to use a game in VR.

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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Epic doesn't charge for use of Unreal Engine in vfx, and overall I don't think vfx is a very profitable space for most software companies. It's a low margin business, mostly outsourced. I doubt that Hollywood studios are going to pay any vfx provider a share of revenue in any case.

This is changing: https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/5/23905082/epic-unreal-engi...

It's still not a significant source of revenue. How many per-seat licenses do you think they will sell to vfx companies, who usually operate on paper-thin margins?

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When kingdom hearts was released I got my first glimpse of how some people seem to throw their logic and taste out the window for Disney. It just seemed the dumbest thing to me. And why was the sword a key.. [edit: this was my teenage selfs opinion]

Some people like goofy mashup fun. There's a ton of people who apparently really liked Kingdom Hearts. It's pretty elitist to consider some IP too sacred to remix.

> goofy mashup fun

Heh, not sure if pun intended but this made me giggle

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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Oversimplified negativity towards Disney and Epic Games doesn't capture their diverse contributions. A more nuanced view and consideration of both positives and negatives is advisable.

Oversimplified positivity doesn't capture their perverse intentions. A more nuanced view of both negatives and positives is advisable.

Nuanced negativity fails to grasp their genuine intentions. A simplified perspective considering both negatives and positives is recommended.

Re: Disney to take $1.5B stake in Epic Games

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I worked on a UT99 mod back in the day and was invited to the Raleigh office back in 2003 or so after our artist was hired by them. He still works there. Hard to believe how far the company has come.

Still one of the greatest games of all time.
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