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LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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I've installed LineageOS on my father's 10yo device and it works great. Unfortunately I won't be able to the same on mine, because I need my banking apps to work for two-factor authentication. Just one bank in my area allows for a hardware key and I don't have an account there. It appears that I'm forced to have an up-to-date device with its original OS to do banking.

Installing LineageOS does not imply losing access to Google services and the Play Store.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Bought a Samsung years ago and it still irks me to this day I didn't double check for a LineageOS ROM before I installed it. Not only is it philosophically important to me, but I've never enjoyed Android so much as when I was running it on my old Oppo. Those truly were the days.

Now how can we get that number to 3m?

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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BlindShell sells a phone for vision-impaired users, with support for popular assistive apps, plus audio for NFC tags, https://blindshellusa.com .

That looks really nice. Little things like the reversible charging plug are absolutely critical (one elderly relative has broken a considerable number of devices by forcing the USB Micro-B cables in the wrong way round - coloured stickers to mark the plugs are obligatory). NFC tags to identify physical objects when one can't read the label are an excellent idea.

The team at WayAround have done a good job of integrating slightly-custom-for-small-premium NFC tags with their smartphone app and optional dedicated reader. Non-technical customers can buy tags designed for clothing buttons, magnets, stickers, clips and more. Techies can use generic tags + magic string.

https://www.wayaround.com (custom) and https://gototags.com (generic).

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Installed lineageos on Mi A1 few months ago as some apps stopped offering android 9 support, this is one of the few phones that do not report unlocked bootloader to safety net so it works with banking apps too. For my surprise, the lineageos is much snappier and battery life is longer, so it's win-win. Be warned though, Google's own Android backup system is completely useless, so make sure you export your important d…

I don't understand why banking apps don't work with root/ROMs. In my country, if your phone is rooted or you have a custom ROM installed, banking apps just warn you about it, saying "Your phone is rooted, if you don't know what it means your safety could be compromised", allowing you to disable further warnings.

I guess they want to avoid possibility of such user reading the apps memory which would be possible. Or protect a clueless user from themselves if their phone is infected with malware etc.. (Though here I agree, "I know what I'm doing" popup would be better)

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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I install Lineage on the phones of the elderly at local care homes and any people who are interested in prolonging the life of their old phones. Poor people can't afford a new phone every two years. When in your 80's you dont need or want the constant nagging of apps pestering you when all you want to do is text and call your family and friends. I use abd to delete/disable every unnecessary useless app and leave them…

Take something as simple and necessary like Messenger or WhatsApp. Try to use it with no previous knowledge, texting, calling, turning on camera during call. All the text the UI displays, how it is worded. It's ridiculously unintuitive, not inclusive, a real barrier. There should be law to mandate the UI of any app beyond a userbase of 100M. If you say that would severely restrict apps becoming that big, yeah that wo…

> There should be law to mandate the UI of any app beyond a userbase of 100M.

Gross. No thanks.

If you don't like the UI of an app, just use something else for cryin' out loud.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Take something as simple and necessary like Messenger or WhatsApp. Try to use it with no previous knowledge, texting, calling, turning on camera during call. All the text the UI displays, how it is worded. It's ridiculously unintuitive, not inclusive, a real barrier. There should be law to mandate the UI of any app beyond a userbase of 100M. If you say that would severely restrict apps becoming that big, yeah that wo…

My elderly parents especially have problems with buttons that need 2 steps to press them. E.g. in Whatsapp if the other party wants to start a video call, a small button will pop up that just shakes around and needs to be pulled up. They usually don't even notice that button. And if they do, they certainly don't understand that it needs to be pulled up... Another big issue is that buttons and input fields are often n…

This is one of my own personal gripes with modern interfaces. Interactive widgets are often indistinguishable from non-interactive elements.

I'm only in my 40s, still very hands on in tech and I still struggle with some applications. It's gotten to the point where I now loathe most web-based and mobile applications.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Alternative ROMs immensely prolong the effective life of Android devices. Not only you get newer features, but my two recent phones both got noticeably more responsive and snappy when upgraded. The only problem is that the process of installing an alternative OS on a phone is very technical -- much more than installing Linux on a PC, and even that is too much for most users.

I've bricked a couple of older phones due to very minor hardware version differences meaning fatal software results.

I'm always scared of messing up the delicate process of custom recovery installation, custom ROM installation and rooting. Some of the hardware variations are essentially unknowable outside of seeing if it works or if it's bricked.

Having said that, there are four functioning LineageOS phones in my household.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Lineage is as much standard android experience as you can get after market without any gaming/styling mods. If google was series about AOSP and sustainability they should embrace lineage and at least give a non-rooted lineage with a relocked bootloader on pixel phones a safety-net pass. Lineage has been very careful to not piss off google by not including microg or alternative webview signatures or means to circumven…

I never understood the banking app thing. I can use my banks website to manage my finances, using my built-from-source Gentoo Linux computer. Why must a phone then be totally locked down?

I recently gave up with the cat and mouse game trying to keep my banking apps working and defected to an iPhone. If I'm going to be locked down, Apple does it better. Sorry, Google, your main advantage to me over Apple was flexibility. Of course, now I have to deal with the completely locked down App Store, which is a diseased pit of useless subscription and ad riddled apps. I do miss f-droid. Why is my only real choice between two platforms that are actively antagonistic toward me?
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