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I'd love to use Fresh but a framework for web development which calls itself v1.x and yet only supports Tailwind for styling purposes feels very immature. The fact that for the next iteration they are prioritizing view transitions and not CSS bundling is baffling.
what is a great comparison between Bun, Deno, and Node.js? Why should I choose Bun over Deno or vice versa?
Just build something useful. Your users don't care. Even PHP is good enough if you know what to build. If you don't, focus on pointless things like Bun vs Node vs Deno, get some dopamine hits and fool yourself into thinking you are being productive.
Would love to see the compile situation fixed - the generated executables are ~90MB+ at this stage and do now allow compression without erroring out. Deploying ala Golang is not feasible at that level but could well be down the line if this dev branch is picked up again! The exe output grew from from ~50MB to plus ~90MB from 2021 to 2024: https://github.com/denoland/deno/discussions/9811 which mean Deno is worse than…
When I download a modern game it's like 700GB so I donno why people complain about 100mb self contained deploys for javascript. Most of it is the international libraries anyway so. I find it pretty ridicolous since I go to a website today and it's at least 15MB each time I refresh but 100MB on the server is a problem? Dude cmon.
I have a deno app in production and it is working just fine. However, I still think node is superior when you self host when you are not using docker. Deno afaik still doesn't support any way of running one process for every CPU like the cluster module in Node.js. I like to run my shit on the metal and without Docker and it feels like Deno was designed to run on Docker or some other kind of virtual containerized envi…
OTOH Deno can produce self-contained binaries. For me this is a plus, it makes distribution so much easier. I don't care if it's 100MB, I just want to have one file which I can throw on my server,
You can join the waitlist in the sneak peak of JSR linked in the end of the article: https://jsr.io/waitlist I'm curious on what the Deno team is building here.
Why Choose JSR? A True TypeScript-First Environment: Efficient type checking and no transpilation hassles—write in TypeScript and deploy directly.
Performance and Usability at the Forefront: With integrated workspaces and seamless NPM integration, JSR puts usability first.
Secured and Accessible Modules: All modules in JSR are exposed over HTTPS, ensuring your code is always secure.
Open Source, Community-Driven: Built by developers, for developers, JSR is shaped by the real-world needs and contributions of the JavaScript community.
I'm interrested in the WebGPU feature. With Slint [1] we're working on a framework which allow to make a desktop GUI in Javascript/Typescript, without bringing a browser/webview. Currently, we do it by using binaries through napi-rs so we can bring in a window using the platform native API. And then we do some hack to merge the event loops. But if Deno supports bringing up a window directly, this means we can just sh…
They're working on a project called Dioxus Blitz; from what I'm told, they're trying to implement a minimal browser target, that provides some basic DOM-like features and renders with wgpu.
It's not exactly what you're hoping for, but you might find common ground.
https://github.com/DioxusLabs/blitz
(Also, the Linebender project is working on Masonry, with FFI as a medium-term goal.)
I'd love to use Fresh but a framework for web development which calls itself v1.x and yet only supports Tailwind for styling purposes feels very immature. The fact that for the next iteration they are prioritizing view transitions and not CSS bundling is baffling.
Would love to see the compile situation fixed - the generated executables are ~90MB+ at this stage and do now allow compression without erroring out. Deploying ala Golang is not feasible at that level but could well be down the line if this dev branch is picked up again! The exe output grew from from ~50MB to plus ~90MB from 2021 to 2024: https://github.com/denoland/deno/discussions/9811 which mean Deno is worse than…
When I download a modern game it's like 700GB so I donno why people complain about 100mb self contained deploys for javascript. Most of it is the international libraries anyway so. I find it pretty ridicolous since I go to a website today and it's at least 15MB each time I refresh but 100MB on the server is a problem? Dude cmon.
That and that's likely 100MB that's going to be competing for memory now* , in FaaS environments especially that's a ton of resources and you increase latency to load that especially over network storage. This also inflates container sizes and just becomes a pain in general.
*Server environments you often don't want to be using swap, and the OS will likely consider it high priority anyway.
I could only agree with you if you have a single monolithic server, don't use containers, don't need to distribute it to others, and don't frequently need to run a CI/CD pipeline. Only then are there not a ton of downsides to a 10mb vs 100mb executable.
> When I download a modern game it's like 700GB so I donno why people complain about 100mb self contained deploys for javascript.
People have been complaining about game sizes for years. "You complain about a 100GB game, I don't know why you also complain about a 100mb self-executable for a javascript runtime" doesn't really make sense.
"Jupyter, the open source notebook tool, added support for JavaScript and TypeScript using Deno. This means data science, visualization, and more can all be done using modern JavaScript and TypeScript and web standards APIs." I love this! At the same time, who would want to do this, given Python's excellent support for numbers and mathematics? And what about Haskell?
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sure but is that a bad thing? this regions probably see next to or zero use and cutting them frees up money to be used on other things.
They’re operating like a startup, which like you say should be perfectly fine. Can’t pretend like a giant when you don’t have the bank account for that. Though they’re also selling a developer ecosystem. A lock-in. Are you willing to bet your company’s own software tools on a vendor that could go bankrupt from their other (hosting) business? The question is if Deno hosting dies, will Deno as a platform still thrive?