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Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Isn't there a dumb / light version of Windows 10 that removes all these anti-features and bloat? I just want to play games and surf the web with FF.

Windows 10 (IoT) LTSC 2021. It lets you uninstall Edge with just a right-click. And it doesn't have any 'modern apps' and Store preinstalled.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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If someone has to use Windows, I recommend using a version like LTSC. I use this version of Windows 10 for video games and it lacks anti-features like taskbar search talking to the internet, the nagging to use Edge. Even then I discovered Edge to be running in the background recently.

If you leave Edge installed it will start automatically and run in the background by default. But that can be disabled in the settings.

If you don't intend to use Edge, I suggest you uninstall it before you give Windows internet access. Because after Edge receives some updates, it becomes harder to remove.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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FYI -- on my MBP I use a program called Spectacle to snap windows around, and I now have no complaints relative to what you can do on Windows. Development on Spectacle ceased[1] and it looks like the community may have rallied around an open-source program called Rectangle, which is open source. At least, judging from this single Reddit thread lol: https://www.reddit.com/r/osx/comments/kazpcn/spectacle_alter... [1] A…

I use Rectangle for this purpose.

If you have it already, another alternative is to use BetterTouchTool and set it to override the behavior of the green corner button. For me it works just like Windows where there’s “minimize” on the yellow button and “maximize” on the green. I still use gestures like exposé but never have to worry about switching desktops or getting stuck in full screen.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.

> laden with ads, "Rewards" Points

Serious question: Where do you see ads? I’ve used Windows 11 since it came out, and have never experienced a single advertisement.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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It’s weird right? 1. keeps me firmly on the platform, I find it a delight how often things “just work”. Run a linux app? Just works. Hook up some niche 15yo printer? Just works. Run a game/demo made 20 years ago? Just works. Even MS Paint very much still just works. It all just works and then the perfectly good Mail app is forcing my mom to switch to the new Outlook, which is Mail, but messier, with ads. What? I wish…

> I wish Satya Nadella would pull a Steve and yell at some people for this shit. Just to check, are you suggesting a Steve Ballmer yell or a Steve Jobs yell?

No confusion there for me, Ballmer's signature move is throwing chairs. Soo many chairs are waiting in the Windows department...

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Just for the record, you can absolutely change the default search engine in Safari and Firefox. I use kagi in both, so bangs are supported everywhere.

Firefox for iOS supports keyword and %s url scheme for search engines. I am not sure why extensions are needed in desktop. You can change default search engine, but you cannot add extra search engines in Safari without building your own extension (and paying apple for it)

>I am not sure why extensions are needed in desktop.

They aren't. Why do you claim things that aren't true?

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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WSL2, power toys and hands down the best window management of any OS, I hate working on my MBP just due to the difficulty of managing different windows and aligning them on the same desktop.

power toys is buggy. It has had this bug that shows on non-US keyboard layouts, and of course it will never be fixed because who cares about non-US keyboard layouts? Meanwhile on KDE I have an easy option to swap caps lock and ctrl, without having to install some weird .exe file off github.

Powertoys got a significant update for foreign users just 4 days ago.

https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/releases

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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WSL2, power toys and hands down the best window management of any OS, I hate working on my MBP just due to the difficulty of managing different windows and aligning them on the same desktop.

FYI -- on my MBP I use a program called Spectacle to snap windows around, and I now have no complaints relative to what you can do on Windows. Development on Spectacle ceased[1] and it looks like the community may have rallied around an open-source program called Rectangle, which is open source. At least, judging from this single Reddit thread lol: https://www.reddit.com/r/osx/comments/kazpcn/spectacle_alter... [1] A…

On the opposite side, would you (or anybody) know of a program to show windows in a cascade/overview style, on windows? So for example have one or 2 “main” windows, and have some/all the other windows in a cascaded view in the background. I would think it would help productivity a lot.

(PowerToys doesn’t do this by itself, you have to select every window in place if I’m not mistaken.)

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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post #26

Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.

> laden with ads, "Rewards" Points Serious question: Where do you see ads? I’ve used Windows 11 since it came out, and have never experienced a single advertisement.

Did you install it? They advertise cloud storage, office software, and gaming in the setup process.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Nope this is intentional by Microsoft and the group policy settings to change this only work on the most expensive Office 365 subscriptions. You can change it manually in the settings though to open with the system default browser.

Do you know how?

Go to "File" -> "Options" -> "Advanced" and set "Open hyperlinks from Outlook in" to "Default Browser"
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