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The Google of 20 years ago was a vastly superior product

Was perhaps the web easier to index 20 years ago though too?

I'd guess their point was, before they continuously removed features that were useful and optimized for ad revenue.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." -Winston Churchill A paradox of politics is that the desire to not talk about politics favors the status quo, necessitating the need to talk about politics. It's obvious to me that AI is being rolled out in just exactly the wrong way at multiple levels, creating misaligned incentives and a perversion of original goals. Bu…

This is an important comment. Instead of "AI"(be real, llms and stable diffusion) being developed openly and studied without a profit motive, it's been thrust into the cheap world of VCs looking to extract any profit whatsoever from it, nearly immediately. This has caused these "AI" tools to be used to steal and rehash artists work(cheapening artists because tech bros and MBAs resent art and the time it takes to perf…

There should be no surprise that "those with power and money" will not willingly apply "technology" for social good. It should be expected, rather. Your comment brings to mind Edward R. Murrow's speech in 1958 about the direction of television (certainly would be "high tech" back then!) He and others envisioned education, information, and enlightenment from this technology. Well, you know what we got instead. Here is a summary of the speech, and you can hear the whole thing on youtube if you like- still absolutely relevant.

https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2014/today-in-medi... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIhy0T7Q48Y

We can see the same thing with other newer media; Ex. video games. I don't have solutions per se, though I wish this pattern could be different. The profit motive and appealing to base instinct seems to always "win".

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Reddit search sucking is a feature - it's trying to protect you from the Reddit content, that's what really sucks. There was a brief moment it had some good advice on products and services, until SEO jerks got wind of it and astroturfed over the whole thing.

Yeah, Reddit is the most astroturfed place on the internet. There's a thriving market in "high karma" accounts that are bought and sold by PR firms, SEO companies, and guerilla marketers -- and a huge fraction, if not an outright majority, of product-related posts are engineered from such sources with undisclosed interests. These days, it's one of the cheapest, and one of the "best," ways to advertise. I don't think…

I thought it was pretty good / relatively unexploited before diggs collapse, but I surely have rose colored nostalgia glasses.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

#136

More the a few times, cached links were what saved me because the target site/page was long gone or down. I guess this feature was too useful for their users..

web.archive.org.

I'm surprised I had to scroll down this far to see the obvious.

If you need cached versions of websites, just use the InternetArchive and make sure to donate.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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I remember when Chrome first launched. It was such a beautiful product. The first major competitor to IE in years. Now, it's become the king it killed.

Chrome was beyond TERRIBLE compared to Firefox. Firefox: 1)Right click image 2)Save as Chrome: 1)Right click image 2)Can't save as because Google decided so, just like Apple's mentality. Imagine actually utilizing a browser where the maker decides you should not have access to basic features.

I just tried this on Chrome from 2010 + current Chrome and both had "save image" when right clicking an image?

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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This is an important comment. Instead of "AI"(be real, llms and stable diffusion) being developed openly and studied without a profit motive, it's been thrust into the cheap world of VCs looking to extract any profit whatsoever from it, nearly immediately. This has caused these "AI" tools to be used to steal and rehash artists work(cheapening artists because tech bros and MBAs resent art and the time it takes to perf…

There should be no surprise that "those with power and money" will not willingly apply "technology" for social good. It should be expected, rather. Your comment brings to mind Edward R. Murrow's speech in 1958 about the direction of television (certainly would be "high tech" back then!) He and others envisioned education, information, and enlightenment from this technology. Well, you know what we got instead. Here is…

I'm aware it should be expected.

The target of my comment is specifically the "well profit=good" crowd on here.

It's to point out the innate contradiction in how we speak about technology compared to the guaranteed outcome in our system.

We're doomed as a species if we keep believing in the magical market as a primary mover for said species. We'll stall in a circlejerk of ads and stock buybacks and never accomplish anything, because any good use for technology is locked behind a gate due to the lack of profit.

Any improvement in medicine is behind lock and key because the pharmaceutical companies "need to make back their investment" despite massive gov funding.

We're killing ourselves here with the spectacle that this system is either working or worth saving.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Yeah, Reddit is the most astroturfed place on the internet. There's a thriving market in "high karma" accounts that are bought and sold by PR firms, SEO companies, and guerilla marketers -- and a huge fraction, if not an outright majority, of product-related posts are engineered from such sources with undisclosed interests. These days, it's one of the cheapest, and one of the "best," ways to advertise. I don't think…

Finding genuine product reviews is borderline impossible these days. Search results are usually just worthless affiliate link spam, even from supposed "reputable" outlets. Are there any other places on the internet that try to solve this problem in a way that can't be easily gamed by marketers?

Forums, surprisingly, are still quite good resources for product recommendations. I suspect it's because forums tend to be _slightly_ nerdier and more focused than more mainstream resources like Reddit. I do a lot of car restoration, and forums are goldmines of product recommendations and information.
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