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Hmmm, not sure how much a customer taking a hot shower costs a gym.

Probably about 6 cents. Assuming a 30 minute shower with a 2.5 gpm flow rate and 110F average temperature. Maybe less if they have a more efficient water heater than resistive electric at ~11 cents per kwh.

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There’s also tricks like requiring certified letters to cancel the membership. One I went to required two. You also paid a fee upfront that was like being there for half a year.

The current FTC leadership sounds amenable to killing this nonsense. Hopefully they got hammered with support during the public comment period:

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165527249/ftc-rule-charges-c...

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/03/...

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Only on HN someone wonders what's the cost of a shower, another person actually attempts to calculate that, and then we get into a discussion whether 30 minute showers are a good thing or not. IMO 30 minutes is a bit excessive but I do enjoy longer showers myself ;)

In grad school, many years ago, I would plug the drain and let the tub fill while I showered. I would pull the plug and let the tub drain once the water had cooled. This way my bathroom would warm up a bit. I suppose this might have saved a few cents.

These days you can get passive ‘waste water heat recovery’ systems that sit beneath a bath or shower tray - warming your inbound cold water with your outflow, so you use less new hot water (or have to heat it less).

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I love articles like this that explain business models that on the surface don’t seem to make sense. I’d like to see a similar analysis of how porn survives as a profitable business when there is an absolutely unlimited supply on the web for free. During the early days of the web I understand but how they make money now is inscrutable.

Porn markets have addictive dynamics. Much like alcohol, drugs, betting, freemium gaming. 90% of the people can just have their fun on the cheap end. But the 10% that are prone to addiction will pour their life savings into it.

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I’m happy for you, but this is kind of phrased a little overly smugly to me. As someone who lifts weights, it sounds like “I don’t go to the grocery, I just eat potatoes and eggs from my backyard farm”. It’s certainly something you can do and get good results, but it’s also a limitation. If you want to build muscle or strength past a certain point it will be very inefficient not to use free weights. Maybe you don’t w…

It's more relief than smugness. Gyms always seemed to let me down: onerous contracts, complex or buggy booking platforms/procedures, unhygienic, stuffy, rigid class start times and open hours. Gaining self-sufficiency made me incredibly happy/relieved. The final straw was when I wanted to pause the membership the gym required "supporting documentation" (i.e. flight or hotel itinerary). I cringed so hard. When I cance…

> onerous contracts, complex or buggy booking platforms/procedures, unhygienic, stuffy, rigid class start times and open hours.

Damn. You pretty much just described civilization right there.

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I personally don't understand the people who wouldn't want to take a 30 minute shower. So long as the water stays hot and you have the time, it's one of the more relaxing things you can do at home. Baths use way more water, and if you don't live somewhere like Japan, they aren't deep and cool off quickly without a bath warmer. Its also kind of gross to sit in a bath without already showering and getting clean before…

> I personally don't understand the people who wouldn't want to take a 30 minute shower. Are you aware that clean water is a finite resource that we're almost certain to run out of? [1] does that not bother you all? Even mighty British Columbia with all the rivers, lakes, mountains and snowfall is under drought conditions, right now in winter! https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/planet-earth/state...

What do you mean it's a finite resource, I take a shower with some water, it gets dumped, cleaned then I can use it again. Does me taking a longer shower just disintegrate the water?

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The best thing I ever did was invest in some quality gym equipment at home. I have a power rack, tons of weights, bars, etc. treadmill, TVs, speakers, whatever. Never going back to a gym again.

But then you're paying for a big house to fit all that.

A whole power rack would indeed be neat but also very excessive unless you have the space. A pair of dumbbells under the sofa will take you a long way. Running on a treadmill, no thanks, just go outdoors.

Re: How Gyms Make Money (2015)

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> Usually about 75 per cent of all gym memberships are taken out in the month of January. That's a pretty wild claim to include without a source... I googled it and found a source that said 12% of signups in January compared to average 8% the rest of the year which sounds a lot more realistic. [1] [1] https://www.ihrsa.org/improve-your-club/how-to-keep-resoluti...

this article is from 2015, maybe people wised up. I remember I once joined a gym with a 3 month prepay and never went even once. After the 3 months were up they called me asking if I want to renew lol. Safe to say I never since payed for more than a month

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To make light of the comment: what the hell does someone need to take a 30m shower for?

I personally don't understand the people who wouldn't want to take a 30 minute shower. So long as the water stays hot and you have the time, it's one of the more relaxing things you can do at home. Baths use way more water, and if you don't live somewhere like Japan, they aren't deep and cool off quickly without a bath warmer. Its also kind of gross to sit in a bath without already showering and getting clean before…

It's terrible for your skin.

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I personally don't understand the people who wouldn't want to take a 30 minute shower. So long as the water stays hot and you have the time, it's one of the more relaxing things you can do at home. Baths use way more water, and if you don't live somewhere like Japan, they aren't deep and cool off quickly without a bath warmer. Its also kind of gross to sit in a bath without already showering and getting clean before…

> I personally don't understand the people who wouldn't want to take a 30 minute shower. Are you aware that clean water is a finite resource that we're almost certain to run out of? [1] does that not bother you all? Even mighty British Columbia with all the rivers, lakes, mountains and snowfall is under drought conditions, right now in winter! https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/planet-earth/state...

> > I personally don't understand the people who wouldn't want to take a 30 minute shower.

> Are you aware that clean water is a finite resource that we're almost certain to run out of? [1] does that not bother you all? https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/planet-earth/state...

I think a 30 minute shower contributes to a global water shortage in the same way that plastic straws contribute.

The link you’ve provided says 90% of water usage is on the generation of electricity, food, and products.

I think the GP should continue to take 30 minute showers, because even if they stop, even if every person stops, it’ll have a negligible effect on water usage.

Much like plastic straws.

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