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Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by dageshi »

rickdeckard wrote: post #106
nerdjon wrote: post #57

While I am sure this is likely to push people towards YouTube premium subscriptions, I feel like Podcasts are unique in the way they are consumed that they need a dedicated app. Otherwise we end up with either a bloated YouTube app or an even more confusing "Youtube Podcasts" app (then YouTube music, YouTube videos, and YouTube whatever google decides to abandon next). Would be a good time for Apple to maybe advertis…

> While I am sure this is likely to push people towards YouTube premium subscriptions I seriously wonder if anyone would really _PAY_ for the user experience of YT Music. It is one of the weirdest media apps I've used in a long time. Never fully fit for purpose, always "okay, somehow works".

I'm betting there's weird licensing issues around music on youtube that means google has to have a separate app for it.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by bane »

notRobot wrote: post #11

Open source alternative on Android: Antennapod: https://antennapod.org/ https://antennapod.org/download/ Available on Google Play and F-Droid. I switched to it many years ago anticipating this exact Google product shutdown, and I've been very happy with it :)

I've been using podcast addict for years. It's a glorious mess of an app that sort of reminds me of kitchen sink apps like calibre.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by bane »

paxys wrote: post #39

The entire podcasts industry seems to be on a downward spiral. I feel like the days are numbered for Spotify's podcast dreams as well, looking at how little they are promoting them now in app or outside. What on earth happened? It was the hottest new thing in media, and then...everyone just collectively lost interest? Was it just the Covid bubble, or something else?

It might be. But it's also a great place to find extremely niche audio content.

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Post by doubleg72 »

vecplane wrote: post #6

YouTube is effectively a Google Podcasts platform already. Paying for YouTube Premium to avoid ads is some of the best money I spend each month. I wish I could do the same for Spotify podcast ads. I do pay for Spotify already to avoid ads in music, but I can't seem to avoid them for the Joe Rogan Experience.

You are one very enlightened individual; Joe Rogan must really be rubbing off on you.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by anjel »

verdverm wrote: post #15
vecplane wrote: post #6

YouTube is effectively a Google Podcasts platform already. Paying for YouTube Premium to avoid ads is some of the best money I spend each month. I wish I could do the same for Spotify podcast ads. I do pay for Spotify already to avoid ads in music, but I can't seem to avoid them for the Joe Rogan Experience.

The ads in podcasts is why I left Spotify. Doesn't really seem like premium when the main content I want from them still has ads

I came here to remind everyone that college radio streams are almost all ad-free and still a great means of music discovery. Also many many many hobby/community radio stations streaming narrowcasts focused on your favorite obscure musical genre. Radio.Garden is a fun place to behold the breadth and depth of what's available, right now, subscription free.

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Post by unsupp0rted »

vecplane wrote: post #6

YouTube is effectively a Google Podcasts platform already. Paying for YouTube Premium to avoid ads is some of the best money I spend each month. I wish I could do the same for Spotify podcast ads. I do pay for Spotify already to avoid ads in music, but I can't seem to avoid them for the Joe Rogan Experience.

I pay for YouTube Premium and every video I watch starts and ends with sponsored ads.

On mobile they’re not auto-skippable.

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Post by msm_ »

taeric wrote: post #32
Cwizard wrote: post #16

Can anyone explain why? I see almost no downside in keeping it running? Infra costs must be minor, there is no licensing costs, it’s a simple app so I would assume very little developer cost. The upside is that Android can come with a ‘native’ podcast player. Just like iOS comes with a native player. A big downside with shutting it down is that it reinforces the idea that Google products are eventually killed so don’…

Google being a giant monorepo is almost certainly at play here. Maintenance costs are always high on products. But upgrades and constant progress on underlying technology is, itself, often a large part of the need for maintenance. Please don't take this as an argument against monorepo. It is a discussion point there, but even if you view this as largely negative, I assert a lot of these negatives come with the size o…

Interesting, i've always considered monorepo to be a maintainability win. Your code doesn't rot (as much) because it's constantly rebuilt and tested. When someone improves some downstream code (for example makes some code faster or safer) you get the benefits immediately. And most importantly - you can do huge interface-breaking refactorings on the whole codebase at once, without versioning dance. For example you can remove a parameter from some function in the library and make sure all clients still work, atomically. I think this is a huge maintainability win - as long as you actually want to maintain something and not let it rot.

But really, do you have a choice? Sooner or later someone finds a security bug in the code and you actually have to dig out the code and deploy an update.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by xnx »

notRobot wrote: post #19
vecplane wrote: post #6

YouTube is effectively a Google Podcasts platform already. Paying for YouTube Premium to avoid ads is some of the best money I spend each month. I wish I could do the same for Spotify podcast ads. I do pay for Spotify already to avoid ads in music, but I can't seem to avoid them for the Joe Rogan Experience.

Lots of podcasts do not exist on YouTube. There is no way to subscribe to feeds or auto-download episodes or any of the dozens of quality of life features that podcast users have been enjoying for over a decade. I subscribe to YouTube Premium but to consider it a replacement to a proper podcasting app seems naive to me.

> Lots of podcasts do not exist on YouTube

You can subscribe to any podcast (RSS/Atom) feed via the YouTube Music app.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by rchaud »

happytiger wrote: post #94
jtbayly wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you like things inshittified, then it seems like a great idea. Let's put big tech in between me and the things I want to consume, when there's no need, and let them begin to try to make money off of it and make everything worse!

You mean like introducing ever increasing ad loads and removing background playback to a premium tier to create “value” for subscriptions while simultaneously trying to resurrect cable television despite the Internet being a thing, for example? I love how hard people will advocate for their YouTube subscriptions like it’s the best thing ever. YouTube’s recent changes are so Hollywood entertainment exec-esque lately (…

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