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Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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Post by occamsrazorwit »

opportune wrote: post #126
sphars wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If people consciously thought about how much a dinner costs per hour, it might lead more people to change their dietary habits. This is how I think about my food when I want to eat out. Most meals are now $10+, give or take, and I start to think, "that's one month of YouTube Premium, is it really worth it to eat this?". A "subscription" of eating out often starts adding up real quick compared to my own cooking.

I think that speaks more to the low price of YT premium than it does the high price of food. In general a lot of digital content (also most streaming services, and many video games) has amazingly good cost per time-entertained. And that food is still pretty cheap compared to a Broadway play or concert

I'm not sure about that last part. A meal that lasts an hour is on the long side while a concert is several hours long. In my area (San Francisco) and experience, it's like $20 for a dinner or $50 for a concert.

FWIW, I also operate on the experential-model, and I'm going to remember a concert far more than 3-4 random dinners.

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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Post by brewtide »

gruez wrote: post #90
waltbosz wrote: post #82

I'm interested to see a $/H breakdown of the cost of (self hosted htpc) piracy. You gotta buy hard drives and a media player, and spend time with set up and maintaince. You own time would be highly variable in cost. A parent of 4 vs a highschool kid have very different time values.

> I'm interested to see a $/H breakdown of the cost of (self hosted htpc) piracy. You gotta buy hard drives and a media player, and spend time with set up and maintaince. Why would you need hard drives? If your internet is reasonably fast you can just delete the file and download it again next time you need to watch it. Same goes with htpc. A laptop with a hdmi cord works fine as well and is way cheaper.

I have Plex thrown onto a headless old franken i5 that's also doing duty as a home assistant instance, running an instance of car speed tracking openCV python thing and a goesrecv decoding instance (from the atom processor'd sdr connected laptop out back in the schoolhouse).

You use the app on a phone to cast to a chromecast that's jabbered into the $84 projector, hooked to the "they are broken" Sony Bluetooth speakers and sub (not broken, now fixed!).

And all currently mostly stored on an external 4tb USB 3 drive I've had for years.

A rant, and a ramble, but nothing listed above is expensive or particularly hard to wing together.

Is the experience mind blowing? Nope. But it works for the kids and I, and has certainly been worth the time (and nominal $) expenditure here.

Zero. Qualms.

Edit: $10 a month in electricity for this ancient machine doing all of these things, if you round up.

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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Post by throw10920 »

kube-system wrote: post #100
caslon wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Micropayments on the internet don't work. Payment processors charge 30¢ per transaction, plus a percentage. We are not in a system that allows for micropayments to work. You list a very famous content creator. On the other hand, there are lots of content creators who actually are struggling, and not making half as much as a minimum wage worker despite working longer hours than full-time. If you look at the Twitch lea…

> Micropayments on the internet don't work. Payment processors charge 30¢ per transaction, plus a percentage. Well yes, micropayments don't work if you don't use a micropayment platform. There are solutions that cater specifically to micropayments that have different fee structures so that it makes sense. A platform with enough resources and interest could also accept deposits from traditional payment processors in b…

Right - GP puts up a strawman:

> Micropayments on the internet don't work. Payment processors charge 30¢ per transaction, plus a percentage.

Nobody ever said that you'd have to use payment processors directly for micropayments, and most schemes that I know of don't, because of those fees.

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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Post by nkohari »

JohnFen wrote: post #125
nkohari wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people aren't like you FWIW; there's a lot of research that suggests consumers prefer higher fixed prices to lower variable prices. The trouble with PPV (even if it's much cheaper than something like YouTube Premium) is that now before I watch any video, I have to consider whether that particular video is worth watching. For lots of content on YouTube, that bar would be too high to clear. It's much more comforta…

> research that suggests consumers prefer higher fixed prices to lower variable prices. I'm one of them. I value predictability pretty highly when it comes to expenses. The less mental energy I have to spend on money-related things, the happier I am.

Me too. I'd imagine anyone who values time more than money would prefer the fixed-cost option. (And I learned a long time back buying time is the best possible use of money!)

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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Post by saaaaaam »

danpalmer wrote: post #42
josh-sematic wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can support one for a few months, switch to another, etc.. Or just roll a dice and pick one of your favorites to support and leave it to others to support the others you like. Something is better than nothing if you want to keep independent creators around.

Yeah all of this is just a lot of work and decisions, and rolling a dice just feels weird and unfair. I do pay for YT premium which distributes money across my views which is therefore somewhat fair, and I'm considering a Nebula subscription (if Curiosity Stream's sign up flow doesn't persuade me not to again). I wish that Patreon had a support format where I could pay, say, $20 a month to Patreon and have that sprea…

> I wish that Patreon had a support format where I could pay, say, $20 a month to Patreon and have that spread between whoever I'm supporting in a way that's cost efficient on payment fees and stuff like that.

This is (effectively) how "user centric" revenue models that have been proposed in music would work. Your monthly subscription would be assigned to creators that you listen to. The challenge in music is that it doesn't necessarily benefit smaller musicians much because people still listen to the big hits from big artists and major labels.

In a platform like Patreon it could work quite well, because it's more of a walled garden. Pick a few creators, and then divvy up the revenue based on how much you engage with their content.

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Post by mattmaroon »

danpalmer wrote: post #19

While the numbers might be a bit hit and miss, the comparison with individual creators is fascinating and definitely hits upon something that keeps me from subscribing to patreons/etc. I don't have just one creator who I would consistently want to support the most, there are probably 10-20 who I would like to support, however I'm not going to pay 10x of them $5/h for content when YouTube is 1x $0.50/h (and has their…

I’ve debated a solution to this, at least with respect to podcasts.

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Post by SkyPuncher »

Oras wrote: post #3

Is the average monthly usage of Netflix 43h/month? That's 1.1 hours per day! Where does this data come from? Is it global or specific to a country? It seems like quite a lot. Can't believe Spotify, which I assume people listen to during work or commute so would potentially be higher, has only 5 hours/month compared to 43h/month from Netflix. That's why I'm curious to know the source of the data.

We typically watch a few hours of Tv each night. We’re all typcodojng something else, but we still have the TV on.

Re: Paying Netflix $0.53/H, etc.

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Post by sagaro »

Oras wrote: post #3

Is the average monthly usage of Netflix 43h/month? That's 1.1 hours per day! Where does this data come from? Is it global or specific to a country? It seems like quite a lot. Can't believe Spotify, which I assume people listen to during work or commute so would potentially be higher, has only 5 hours/month compared to 43h/month from Netflix. That's why I'm curious to know the source of the data.

Netflix has a problem of multiple people sharing same account. So the number could be that of 2-3 people's watching time clubbed as one.
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