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Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by mrtksn »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #130
mrtksn wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK it worked out well. Works more-less the same as before, shipped quite a bit of stuff and drastically reduced costs.

Shipped stuff? Like what? Threads? Its usage is down 90% since its launch six months ago, presumably because they kept the people who could launch stuff and got rid of the people who had some idea of what should be launched. The "Blue Checkmark" system? Released with no thought at all, absolute disaster. Steven King had to publicly announce that, despite indications to the contrary, he was not a paid user, and he fel…

The issues with Twitter are currently about Musk buying it at ridiculous price and his personal antics. Other than that, it works fine as always.

They shipped quite a bit of stuff, like the blue tick or revenue sharing. Other than Musk courting fascist and other kind of undesirables, twitter as a product is doing fine. It might go under though, but if that happens isn't going to happen because lack of employees.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by doctoboggan »

jsnell wrote: post #125
doctoboggan wrote: post #117

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I really don't understand how they came up with the _exact_ same image. This goes against my previous understanding of how these technologies work, and would appear to lend credence to the "they just regurgitate training material" argument.

Pretty sure they didn't come up with the same image. Images 1, 3, and 4 are the three images the GP generated and they put the Imagen-generated image (2) into the set for ease of comparison.

Ok yes if that is the case then it makes much more sense.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by miohtama »

arthurdenture wrote: post #39

I asked imagen 2 to generate a transparent product icon image, and it generated an actual grey and white square pattern as the background of the image... https://imgur.com/a/KA2yWHp

Luckily there is another AI for removing the background (:

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by krzyk »

htrp wrote: post #74
simonw wrote: post #2

This post has more information: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/i... I can't figure out how to try this thing. The closest I got was this sentence: "To get started with Imagen 2 on Vertex AI, find our documentation or reach out to your Google Cloud account representative to join the Trusted Tester Program."

"To get started with Imagen 2 on Vertex AI, find our documentation or reach out to your Google Cloud account representative to join the Trusted Tester Program." And also be prepared to wait somewhere between 6- inf months ... at this point the google cloud account reps can't even grease the wheels for us

So it is "Generally" Available.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by HlessClaudesman »

simonw wrote: post #2

This post has more information: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/i... I can't figure out how to try this thing. The closest I got was this sentence: "To get started with Imagen 2 on Vertex AI, find our documentation or reach out to your Google Cloud account representative to join the Trusted Tester Program."

Google, save the marketing fluff, just let us play with the toys.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by kossTKR »

HlessClaudesman wrote: post #135
simonw wrote: post #2

This post has more information: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/i... I can't figure out how to try this thing. The closest I got was this sentence: "To get started with Imagen 2 on Vertex AI, find our documentation or reach out to your Google Cloud account representative to join the Trusted Tester Program."

Google, save the marketing fluff, just let us play with the toys.

Yeah seriously this is a joke by now. Good research, but product wise they are like the slowest behemoth, impossible to contact, extremely convoluted in their communication and their interfaces like a kafkaesque maze.

Open AI really shows us how it's done, or the way Mistral just dumps a torrent on everyone. That's marketing i can respect.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by boh »

karmasimida wrote: post #121
simonw wrote: post #106

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DALL-E 3 doesn't have Stable Diffusion's killer feature, which is the ability to use an image as input and influence that image with the prompt. (DALL-E pretends to do that, but it's actually just using GPT-4 Vision to create a description of the image and then prompting based on that.) Live editing tools like https://drawfast.tldraw.com/ are increasingly being built on top of Stable Diffusion, and are far and away t…

Saying SD is losing or not useful isn't my position. But it clearly didn't win in many scenarios, especially those require text to be precise, and that happens to be more important in commercial setting, to clear up those gibberish texts generated by OSS stable diffusion seems tiring by itself.

If you’re in charge of graphics in a “commercial setting”, you 100% couldn’t care less about text and likely do not want txt2img to include text at all. #1 it’s about the easiest thing to deal with in Photoshop, #2 you likely want to have complete control over text placement/fonts etc., #3 you actually have to have licenses for fonts, especially for commercial purposes. Using a random font from a txt2img generator can open you up to IP litigation.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by bbor »

boh wrote: post #116
bbor wrote: post #94

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I would totally agree. I’ve tried to setup stable diffusion a couple times, and even as a professional software engineer working in AI, every time I fail to get good results, get interrupted, lose track, and end up back at DALLE. I’ve seen what it can do, I know it can be amazing, but like Linux it has some serious usability issues

Using this: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui Then this: https://civitai.com/ And I have completely abandoned DALLE and will likely never use it again.

I was kind of hoping someone like you would reply - you’re a very kind person. Thank you for taking the time. Excited to try this advice tonight!

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by kossTKR »

gpm wrote: post #47
simonw wrote: post #2

This post has more information: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/i... I can't figure out how to try this thing. The closest I got was this sentence: "To get started with Imagen 2 on Vertex AI, find our documentation or reach out to your Google Cloud account representative to join the Trusted Tester Program."

I think the process is 1. Go to console.cloud.google.com 2. Go to model garden 3. Search imagegeneration 4. End up at https://console.cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/publishers/google... And for whatever reason that is where the documentation is. Sample request curl -X POST \ -H "Authorization: Bearer $(gcloud auth print-access-token)" \ -H "Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8" \ -d @request.json \ "https://us-c…

This is giving me ptsd flashbacks from working with gCloud from weird "console" pages hidden deep in some yggdrasil sized tree structure with undocumented apis and labyrinthian authentication processes unknown to everyone even Google themselves.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by kridsdale3 »

arthurdenture wrote: post #39

I asked imagen 2 to generate a transparent product icon image, and it generated an actual grey and white square pattern as the background of the image... https://imgur.com/a/KA2yWHp

Thankfully, MacOS and iOS have a fantastic ML powered "extract the image content in to a new image with transparent background" function that you could use on this silly output to get what you want.
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