Excited to play with this once it's somewhat documented on how to get it running on a dual 4090 Setup.
Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]
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#132multimodal? 32k context is pretty impressive, curious to test instructability
MistralLite is already 32K, and Yi 200K actually works pretty well out to at least 75K (the most I tested)
What is the max number of tokens in the output?
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#133Hot take but Mistral 7B is the actual state of the art of LLM's. ChatGPT 4 is amazing yes and i've been a day 1 subscriber, but it's huge, runs on server farms far away and is more or less a black box. Mistral is tiny, and amazingly coherent and useful for it's size for both general questions and code, uncensored, and a leap i wouldn't have believed possible in just a year. I can run it on my Macbook Air at 12tkps, c…
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is extremely misleading. source: been working in local LLMs since 10 months ago. Got my Mac laptop too. I'm bullish too. But we shouldn't breezily dismiss those concerns out of hand. In practice, it's single digit tokens a second on a $4500 laptop for a model with weights half this size (Llama 2 70B Q2 GGUF => 29 GB, Q8 => 36 GB)
Mixtral 8x7b only needs 12B of weights in RAM per generation. 2B for the attention head and 5B from each of 2 experts. It should be able to run slightly faster than a 13B desnse model, in as little as 16GB of RAM with room to spare.
I don't think that's the case, for full speed you still need (5B*8)/2+2~fewB overhead.
I think the experts chosen per-token? That means that yes you technically only need two in VRAM memory+router/overhead per token, but you'll have to constantly be loading in different experts unless you can fit them all, which would still be terrible for performance.
So you'll still be PCIE/RAM speed limited unless you can fit all of the experts into memory (or get really lucky and only need two experts).
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#135Who know if I can run this on MBC Pro M3 max 128gb? at what TPS?
Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]
#136Hot take but Mistral 7B is the actual state of the art of LLM's. ChatGPT 4 is amazing yes and i've been a day 1 subscriber, but it's huge, runs on server farms far away and is more or less a black box. Mistral is tiny, and amazingly coherent and useful for it's size for both general questions and code, uncensored, and a leap i wouldn't have believed possible in just a year. I can run it on my Macbook Air at 12tkps, c…
I am with you on this. Mistral 7B is amazingly good. There are finetunes of it (the Intel one, and Berkeley Starling) that feel like they are within throwing distance of gpt3.5T... at only 7B! I was really hoping for a 13B Mistral. I'm not sure if this MOE will run on my 3090 with 24GB. Fingers crossed that quantization + offloading + future tricks will make it runnable.
They are not far from GPT-3 logic wise i'd say if you consider the breadth of data, ie. very little in 7GB's; so missing other languages, niche topics and prose styles etc.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if 13B would be indistinguishable from GPT-3.5 on some levels. And if that is the case - then coupled with the latest developments in decoding - like Ultrafastbert, Speculative, Jacobi, Lookahead etc. i honestly wouldn't be surprised to see local LLM's on current GPT-4 level within a few years.
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#137Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]
#138Do you need some fancy announcement? let's do it the 90s way: https://twitter.com/erhartford/status/1733159666417545641/ph...
Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]
#139Hot take but Mistral 7B is the actual state of the art of LLM's. ChatGPT 4 is amazing yes and i've been a day 1 subscriber, but it's huge, runs on server farms far away and is more or less a black box. Mistral is tiny, and amazingly coherent and useful for it's size for both general questions and code, uncensored, and a leap i wouldn't have believed possible in just a year. I can run it on my Macbook Air at 12tkps, c…
State of the art for something you can run on a Macbook air, but not state of the art for LLMs, or even open source. Yi 34B and Llama2 70B still beat it.
I remember running llama1 33B 8 months ago that as i remember was on Mistral 7B's level while other 7B models were a rambling mess.
The jump in "potency" is what is so extreme.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does expert mean in this context?
It means it's 8 7B models in a trench coat in a sense, it runs as fast as a 14B (2 experts at a time apparently) but takes up as much memory as a 40B model (70% * 8 * 7B). There is some process trained into it that chooses which experts to use based on the question posed. GPT 4 is allegedly based on the same architecture, but at 8*222B.