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Orion Browser by Kagi

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Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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As a paying Kagi user, please don't waste my money on this when Firefox already exists.

I’m also a paying user (and a fan) of Kagi. I’m still confused by the strategy. If you are not Google and trying to have an hegemony on the web, there’s no obvious link between a browser and a search engine. I don’t see the point from a business perspective. It sends a strange signal to users "Hey, by the way, we are reinventing the wheel and making also a browser that works only on some operating systems". It’s a bi…

> going for groceries...

I really this analogy. It feels weird especially when Google and Brave both have their own browser and ad programs, so it's in Kagi's favor to stay as far as possible from inventing their own browser.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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I am hopeful for its development but it’s not a daily driver for me. Too many bugs, not a large enough team to support it. When I have looked at the support forum the developer is sometimes a little hostile about bugs/issues, enough so that I don’t care to report my own issues. This is a subjective statement your experience may differ.

Just to add, the main complaint I have had with it is the memory leaks/bloat. For example, I sometimes listen to music via youtube while working and after a couple hours the video player interface will become unresponsive, you click pause and it takes 5 seconds for the video to pause. This problem has been around for over a year, I remember seeing some similar posts on the support forum but it was kind of dismissive.…

This is also a problem with Safari. Leaving websites with a ton of dynamic content leads to the whole browser becoming unresponsive.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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As a paying Kagi user, please don't waste my money on this when Firefox already exists.

I second this. Please do one thing and one thing only and that's building a good search engine. Don't become Mozilla and get lost along the way.

In fairness to Mozilla, Thunderbird, Bugzilla, and a few projects like DMOZ were fairly well received projects. Even recent ones like Firefox Send and their email forwarding service are quite nice additions. On the software side, their investments in in-browser translations are money well spent IMO.

It's the stuff like Firefox OS and Pocket gave the bad rep to Mozilla. I don't know what they were smoking about Pocket, but I can see their thought process in making Firefox OS. Chrome OS eventually did become a mainstream OS, it could have been Firefox OS too, if it has the right people and money.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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I am genuinely curious why there is a different build for every release of macOS?

I'm not using macOS or this browser, but my guess, seeing how the website mentions it's native app, it probably has to do with ibtegrations with certain features available in each macOS version. Live text, sharing options, etc.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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I'd love to see a browser natively and deeply integrate a 3rd party password manager like bitwarden or 1password, instead of just supporting Keychain.

I've been using Firefox's built-in password manager before moving to Bitwarden, and I don't think Firefox's isn't all that bad.

All passwords are E2EE, and the sync server is open source and you can theoretically self host it.

I recently read about how Bitwarden adds Passkeys to Firefox, and was left sour there is no universal API for it. Bitwarden just overrides it as JS level, and hands it over to the browser if there are no passkeys selected/available.

I imagine Safari + keychain is coupled in a more secure and well-defined way.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Is there an argument to be made for a lighter browser such as this being more secure than Safari or Firefox on macOS?

No. This is done by a company without a real security team. Compare that to Google, with one of the best security teams in the world.

And as we all know, Google's security record is spotless.
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