Can't wait to see if the pad survived! If it did, they might make another attempt sooner than expected.
Definitely did better than last time!
Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time
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#132Second stage lost, looks like the flight termination system did its job. Unknown as to why yet. Going to be very very interesting to see the data that's released from this as well as all the higher quality video/stills that surface.
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The FTS actually working this time is positive. FTS exists for a good reason, it working is therefore good.
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#134- Starship got just below orbit - Booster destroyed during hot staging - SpaceX reporting that destruct system fired on upper stage towards end of burn all in all a pretty good result: clean launch and separation, good performance on the booster during ascent (no engine mishaps this time)
Small correction, I think. The booster appeared to survive hot staging fine. It went through quite a bit of it's flip back maneuver. It was awesome to watch. There were some interesting activations of engines in the booster engine ring at that point. It's unclear to me if that was anticipated as an offset subset was what was desired for the off axis maneuver, or things were degrading at that point. And then it blowed up, rather instantly. That something happened to the booster during the separation that led to its RUD ~20 seconds later is likely, but technically it was "long since separated" (in rocket launch time) when it was destroyed.
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#136There's a direct media stream that VLC can open (with network stream): https://prod-ec-us-west-2.video.pscp.tv/Transcoding/v1/hls/O... ---- Much better quality, slightly better latency. Seems like it comes from the Periscope transcoding infrastructure. Found it on reddit here: https://old.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/17uyblj/rspacex_int...
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As expected, the launch is now complete. I won't spoil the results :D
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Im not interpreting their message as negative. Something obviously went wrong, the termination system was activated, and it blew up. Thats what it’s supposed to do when activated.
>Im not interpreting their message as negative. But shouldn't it be interpreted as negative? It blew up.
The FTS failed last time and it caused months of delays with the FAA. This time it worked so there should be fewer delays from regulators in the future.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the fact that it survived long enough for the second stage to get on its way was incredible in itself. We'll see how it goes!
Both the booster and ship have been destroyed. SpaceX can keep claiming these RUDs are 'fine' and 'we're getting data', but the rest of the industry does not consider it normal or a "success." Hotstaging didn't "work" until they can demonstrate the Starship vehicle survives orbital insertion, re-entry, and landing without damage or malfunction caused by the hotstaging.
Failure comes before success. If you fear failure, and are unwilling to face it, then you have no business striving for success.
I thought everyone here knew about this. Every software bug is a failure. Going through and squashing every one is the path to success.
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It does have a positive spin, and that is a good thing. I did check your comments and you seem to have a negative spin on most of your comments. Maybe their tone is not compatible to yours. But gross and delusional seem wrong considering what they have accomplished so far. Their work is inspiring and deserves the praise and positivity.
Heh, I generally agree with you. But you really do need to wonder how much of the "SpaceX" cheering is staged/prompted. For example, they let out a big cheer from the SpaceX employees right after Starship RUD'd (try t+8:30). But the interleaved shots of their actual control center shows far more restraint. Certainly no overly disappointed looks, but Elon's face looks quite measured.
Though of course, even the most negative cynical person can make this whole by rationalizing that the line employees cheering are cheering the flaming end of a death march (and channeling all of their suppressed 'i told you so's), while trying to blind themselves to the next upcoming death march.
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#140Impressive, but does anyone know where will the debris from the second stage re-enter?