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Re: Trading bot that buys stocks bought by politicians is up 20% since May 2022

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The two graphs have visibly quite different volatilities. A number like 20% is not meaningful unless you also somehow state the risk, eg in terms of volatility or beta or other measures.

3 years is not far enough to draw any meaningful conclusion and it abruptly ends in early 2023.

3 years is plenty if the sharpe is high enough (it probably isn’t, but GP’s comment about volatility of returns is important here)

Re: Trading bot that buys stocks bought by politicians is up 20% since May 2022

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If the 'other investing approach' is a broad market index like the S&P 500, where is the 'appearance if insider trading'? GP's point is that they could be almost entirely in the S&P500, with some minor innocuous deviation (tracking error, frankly!) and it would look the same. So this isn't really suspicious at all. Sure it's a US-focussed index, but isn't that you want from your politicians? (Outsider perspective her…

Anecdata to follow. Does this not look suspicious? https://www.threads.net/@quiverquantitative/post/CzcB_jyA_pD The politician in question is a 69 year old former football coach who bought stock in a cloud-based e-commerce software vendor before the company was acquired, then when the stock spiked 50%, he sold it right away.

Kids on wallstbets were buying 100-1 leveraged short dated options paid for with their credit cards on the same stonk for the acquisition.

Re: Trading bot that buys stocks bought by politicians is up 20% since May 2022

#133

Better headline: Algorithm discovers deep corruption in Politics.

Algorithm discovers stock market has volatility and you can cherry pick returns based on historical dates pretty easily

Sure XD mines more fun.

Re: Trading bot that buys stocks bought by politicians is up 20% since May 2022

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at the same time let's remove the immunity of politicians and prevent long terms that keep people in office until they die.

> prevent long terms It is a quandary. Some pols burrow in and never go away, to the detriment of the people they're supposed to be serving. On the other hand, term limits just empower lobbyists, who don't have them. You think capture is bad now, just wait until all elected officials are perennial novices at the game.

Long term politicians are not adverse either to lobbying. On the contrary they are even more likely to be corrupted like a ripe apple exposed to the sun for too long

Re: Trading bot that buys stocks bought by politicians is up 20% since May 2022

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> There are actually people that aren't self interested in public service, they do exist. relying on altruism is not what i would call scalable nor stable. The rules of the system should be such that the optimal/desirable behaviour is also the selfish behaviour. If something selfish or damaging is beneficial to the individual at the expense of someone else, then the rules must be changed to even it back out.

Selfishness is anomalous if the consensus of research literature on the topic is to be believed. Without dropping volumes of research, you can derive this intuitively. Think about how people respond in disasters. Running into danger to save strangers is common for things like floods or bystanders trying to save someone in a car crash. Prosocial is the norm. These days extreme selfishness is an indicator of autistic s…

Always fun to scroll hn and get some drive-by ableism. The majority of autistic people aren't in full time work, they probably don't resemble that remark.

Re: Trading bot that buys stocks bought by politicians is up 20% since May 2022

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Radical proposal: Rather than trying to police leakage of insider information, level the playing field for both politicians and fed employees by creating a dozen or so national mutual funds of at least 1,000 equity positions each that intend to model the US economy as a whole. Anyone can invest in them, but all US Federal employees and immediate family members are required to liquidate all other positions and hold on…

I think that much of what you propose is already enacted in practice, at least for many federal employees who are not political appointees, etc. Elected representatives are another matter entirely.

Many federal employees do in fact have to limit what securities they can purchase or hold. For example, if I recall correctly, patent examiners cannot hold more than $20,000 in investments for an industry that they examine patents in, and they cannot hold more than $10,000 in stock for any company they may examine patents for. The guidance tells them to prefer index funds that capture the entire market rather than individual companies or sectors. This is explicitly to prevent conflicts of interest. If you are high up enough in these federal positions (without having to be a political appointee), you even have to complete a financial disclosure form (SF-714), and people do check these things for potential conflicts.

That said, many federal employees invest heavily in TSP funds, most of which are managed by BlackRock, so your last point about distributing them among multiple fund managers is not true in practice, since I imagine most federal employees have their investments heavily in funds managed by BlackRock.

Re: Trading bot that buys stocks bought by politicians is up 20% since May 2022

#138

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But... how do we know that @dang doesn't do anything?

Dang himself says to send in an email. I never wrote down the address though...

Again, it's the Contact link at the bottom of the page here.

Re: Trading bot that buys stocks bought by politicians is up 20% since May 2022

#139

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Selfishness is anomalous if the consensus of research literature on the topic is to be believed. Without dropping volumes of research, you can derive this intuitively. Think about how people respond in disasters. Running into danger to save strangers is common for things like floods or bystanders trying to save someone in a car crash. Prosocial is the norm. These days extreme selfishness is an indicator of autistic s…

Always fun to scroll hn and get some drive-by ableism. The majority of autistic people aren't in full time work, they probably don't resemble that remark.

Of course not. There's a really big difference here.

On the one hand, asd people are everywhere including in positions of power.

However, if you had a system which, by design, considers a subsection of asd people as the only ones qualified to hold power, you would be missing out on the contributions of everyone else which we should be including, you know, as a virtue of democracy.

To circle back around, the premise that people are fundamentally selfish is what's being rejected. The reality is (some small minority of) people behave in ways that might be considered fundamentally selfish and they've been thoroughly studied by behaviourists and psychologists.

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