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Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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Post by redundantly »

minzi wrote: post #20
redundantly wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience both ASUS and Razer are terrible brands. Poor support. Poor build qualities. Getting drivers for Razer is like pulling teeth, especially for previous gen hardware. Keyboard lighting controls for Razer requiring cloud connected software. Hard pass on both for me.

I think you are correct about the history of Razer products, but this latest line up has been very solid. I had issues with the first laptop I got. It turned out to be a software issue and I got support within a day and they patched the problem within a week. I should also add that they have battery limiting features now and a two year battery warranty. Those two improvements protect you from 90% of the bad experienc…

I should have clarified, the cloud integration requirement for adjusting the keuboard's RGB settings is under Windows. It's software Razer developed themselves and require for basic functionality on their shipped product. It left a terrible impression with me.

Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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Post by austhrow743 »

mortallywounded wrote: post #52

I have been using a Lemur Pro (lemp11) for ~14 months as my daily driver (coming from a Macbook Pro). It's my main machine and has been running constantly the entire time (auto suspends at night). I have powered it off a few times since purchasing it. I use the Lemur Pro with a USBC dock, two external monitors, a keyboard and a mouse when at my desk. I did a few manual upgrades. I added 32GB of RAM (maxed at 40GB). I…

I wonder how much screen brightness plays on to people’s varying battery life results.

You’re the first person I’ve seen say they use a laptop at quarter brightness. I keep my screens either at full brightness or close to it. Never below 75%. Prior to your comment if id seen a laptop maker advertise a certain battery life and then have “at quarter brightness” in the fine print id consider them deceptive but apparently there’s at least one of you that it’s accurate for.

Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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Post by m463 »

noobermin wrote: post #43

I'm team barrel connector after having broken many usb-c ports. That's a plus not a minus.

It is also pretty open - you can probably get a power supply from any number of vendors.

Seems like every other laptop vendor has a proprietary super-special just-for-me connector, that ends up being the same voltage

(not that USB-C isn't open)

Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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Post by digitallis42 »

My biggest beef with it is the arrow keys are nestled among the page up/page down keys. I'm constantly miss-striking PgUp when I'm just trying to arrow around.

Secondary issues are bad multi-display support. It kind-of works, but often at least one screen glitches out if there's not at least one window maximized on it.

And all the USB ports, C included all run into the same host controller, so you've just got the one bus-worth's of bandwidth which is a bit rough if you're docking into multiple screens, a good camera, audio, network, etc.

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Post by saghm »

driverdan wrote: post #81

I'll say the same thing I always say when System76 hardware is posted here. A 1080p screen should be a non-starter in 2023. How they are still selling these with low DPI screens doesn't make sense to me.

Not only that, but I couldn't even find that info either in the article or the order page it linked to. I agree completely that 1080p is just not good even for a laptop-size screen anymore.

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Post by e12e »

saghm wrote: post #135
driverdan wrote: post #81

I'll say the same thing I always say when System76 hardware is posted here. A 1080p screen should be a non-starter in 2023. How they are still selling these with low DPI screens doesn't make sense to me.

Not only that, but I couldn't even find that info either in the article or the order page it linked to. I agree completely that 1080p is just not good even for a laptop-size screen anymore.

> The 1080p matte screen (it's a 1920 x 1080 FHD panel) is also quite nice. I was able to work in relatively bright sunlight without issue.

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Post by starkparker »

belthesar wrote: post #125
warner25 wrote: post #109

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Wow, I'm surprised to hear this about the battery from you guys, as that appears to be one of their top selling points: "Most battery life!" I see that the article describes it as repairable, but is it really easy to get and put in a new battery? I don't see them for sale on system76.com/components I almost bought one of these in late 2021 when I was in the market for a new Linux machine. They were one of the few man…

As far as I'm aware, every System76 laptop is a rebadged OEM laptop with an opinionated set of expansion components that they've effectively certified as functional in Pop!_OS by ensuring good driver and DWM compatibility. I think the OEM is Sager, but I'm not confident on that, or if that's uniform. Anywho, because of this, it should be reasonably possible to source replacement components upstream.

Yep, Sager/Clevo. Clevo L141AU has the same specs (2.5 lbs, 14 hours claimed battery life, 65W barrel charger, same keyboard layout, i7-1355U option). The case looks close, maybe identical, to the photos in the article. https://laptopwithlinux.com/product/clevo-l141au/

EDIT: Customized the Laptop with Linux Clevo to the same exact specs as the review unit and got a total price of $1,507, so about the same, give or take $30.

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Post by culopatin »

ostenning wrote: post #130
discmonkey wrote: post #31

Figure I might as well drop a quick review after 2 years with the lemur pro 11 Pros: * Most things "just work", which you only appreciate after working with other linux laptops. For example, I can seamlessly plug this laptop in place of my work macbook with just one usb-c cable. That being said I think things have generally gotten better in the space so this may not be as much of a selling point anymore. Additionally…

> Most things "just work" I find it pretty hilarious that in 2023 this can still be a selling point. Don't get me wrong I ran arch on a thinkpad for a long time so I can appreciate the statement, but now I just use a macbook and get my work done

These are product for certain type of people. I could’ve been that person maybe 10 years ago, or whenever I thought compiling Gentoo on a Pentium 4 was worth my time. But as I got busier with life, that opinion changed. To have to pay for a product that “mostly” works? (That doesn’t really once you read more details about it)

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Post by fragmede »

culopatin wrote: post #138
ostenning wrote: post #130

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> Most things "just work" I find it pretty hilarious that in 2023 this can still be a selling point. Don't get me wrong I ran arch on a thinkpad for a long time so I can appreciate the statement, but now I just use a macbook and get my work done

These are product for certain type of people. I could’ve been that person maybe 10 years ago, or whenever I thought compiling Gentoo on a Pentium 4 was worth my time. But as I got busier with life, that opinion changed. To have to pay for a product that “mostly” works? (That doesn’t really once you read more details about it)

Hate to break it to you, but the Pentium 4 was released in the year 2000.

Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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Post by chrismorgan »

panick21_ wrote: post #73
chrismorgan wrote: post #55

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> * Nice keyboard Hang on, I thought this was still Clevo stuff. I bought a Clevo-ODM laptop a decade or so ago, the keyboard was atrocious in feel (no click left at all on most keys, just linearish sponginess) and activation (e.g. Space was quite difficult to activate, A would very regularly double-activate) within two years. And I know I’ve heard similar complaints regularly since then from others.

System76 is working with Clevo but increasingly with other vendors where they have some more input. Most new products aren't Clevo is my understanding.

I thought this one at least was still Clevo.
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