we're not talking about UAVs here though, someone needs to configure the drone very locally
You realize they are using drones that you or I can buy on amazon, to blow up tanks and people in an ongoing war? > The logic was simple, Pharmacist says: Exploding drones cost roughly $400 to make, while a conventional projectile can cost nearly 10 times as much. Even if it requires multiple drones to take out a tank — and sometimes it does — it is still worth it. > But first they had to modify commercial drones wit…
> could make the range limitless
do you have an infinite battery technology? no one's crossing international borders with diy assassin drones unless it's like a mile across the canadian or mexican border — much easier to just shoot someone
There's no such threat against almost everybody with clearances.
Then why is security clearance required? This is the same level of clearance that Snowden had. He had access to be able to leak a bunch of programs that he literally was worried about being murdered for exposing. If he had access to information he might be killed by exposing, you don't think he and everyone else at that level has the ability to gain access to information someone else might be willing to kill in order…
no such threat, that's ridiculous
There are 140 stars on the CIA memorial wall total, which includes plenty of wars and combat zones.
There's no serious threat to almost all people who have a security clearance. Quds Force is not scraping LinkedIn for the names of these people.
Sometimes the US perspective of things is completely surreal for me as a European. In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb.
As other commenters have mentioned, US American's ease of access to firearms does not extend to their usage. If you buy a weapon and wrongly shoot someone, there is a system in place to make sure you are found and punished. There is no such system in place for catching people flying drones.
Have you not heard of remote-id?
It's a legal requirement for drones above 250g to broadcast not only their position but also the position of the operator and their identification number.
That reminds me of Strava leaking the workouts of military members, making it very easy to identify the location of secret military bases (this video mentions it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2WrDZnk33g&t=341s).
Seeing drone dropped grenades everywhere in Ukraine has made me worried about normalized "drone drop murders" spreading to the rest of the world. With widely available addresses gang violence, political killings, and even online flamewar escalations will become much much uglier. Who needs to do a driveby shooting if you could drop a homemade bomb from a McDonalds bathroom 20 miles away using some jailbroken drone? Vi…
are explosives as easy to get as bullets & guns where you live?
I'd sure be upset about a remote Molotov cocktail payload busting through my window and burning my house down. Things don't have to be explosive to be dangerous.
Then why is security clearance required? This is the same level of clearance that Snowden had. He had access to be able to leak a bunch of programs that he literally was worried about being murdered for exposing. If he had access to information he might be killed by exposing, you don't think he and everyone else at that level has the ability to gain access to information someone else might be willing to kill in order…
no such threat, that's ridiculous There are 140 stars on the CIA memorial wall total, which includes plenty of wars and combat zones. There's no serious threat to almost all people who have a security clearance. Quds Force is not scraping LinkedIn for the names of these people.
Is there a list of all CIA employees publicly available? You know, "spies" who are doing covert ops, dealing arms and drugs and destabalizing places to overthrow governments, assasinating people, etc. Do we know who those people are? If not, why would there be a list/memorial for them when KIA? The CIA isn't even the topic here though. There are people with this clerance working for all parts of the federal government, NSA, DOJ, CIA, the branches of the military. You're telling me these thousands of people who have secret access, spread across all these departments, don't have the means to access any information a foreign enemy would find useful enough to kill over? I don't think we have a memorial wall for private citizens with TS access who are working for random government contracting firms who are killed in such a case. The federal government doesn't make memorial walls for random company employees who don't technically work for them directly. These aren't government employees, they are contractors, with access levels to our most sensitive information. I'm saying it's for sure an attack vector. How could it not be?
Sometimes the US perspective of things is completely surreal for me as a European. In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb.
> In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb. Drones and IUDs may be less traceable than guns and offer even less risk to the user. Currently if you're going to use a gun, you basically have to be suicidal or care zero about the consequence…
Depends. If you’re really looking to avoid detection then 3d printing a gun is a lot easier than a drone.
You realize they are using drones that you or I can buy on amazon, to blow up tanks and people in an ongoing war? > The logic was simple, Pharmacist says: Exploding drones cost roughly $400 to make, while a conventional projectile can cost nearly 10 times as much. Even if it requires multiple drones to take out a tank — and sometimes it does — it is still worth it. > But first they had to modify commercial drones wit…
> could make the range limitless do you have an infinite battery technology? no one's crossing international borders with diy assassin drones unless it's like a mile across the canadian or mexican border — much easier to just shoot someone
I meant wireless range to control it, not fuel/battery range.
You're assuming they intend to fly the drone across an ocean or something to hit a target. We don't fly predator drones across the ocean either, they are transported somewhere via other means, and then deployed to the area needed in a way they have the range to actually hit their target.
Leaving something on a building rooftop and flying back home to later operate it is not an impossible idea. Use your imagination, there are many ways. Fedex is a thing too.
> In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb. Drones and IUDs may be less traceable than guns and offer even less risk to the user. Currently if you're going to use a gun, you basically have to be suicidal or care zero about the consequence…
> Drones and IUDs may be less traceable than guns and offer even less risk to the user. Gotta watch out for those intra-uterine devices - they can take out a city block. ;)