What is even the difference between Tuta and Proton?
You can find the comparison table here: https://proton.me/mail/proton-mail-vs-tutanota.
Tutanota is now Tuta
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Re: Tutanota is now Tuta
#132What is even the difference between Tuta and Proton?
You can find the comparison table here: https://proton.me/mail/proton-mail-vs-tutanota .
Or here: https://tuta.com/protonmail
About your comparison:
Why exactly do you believe Switzerland is better in terms of data protection than Germany? Do you not need to share data with the US as well upon request? The good thing - in both countries - is that it has legal oversight, besides the data on our servers is encrypted so we don't really see the location benefit here.
And what about data retention laws in Switzerland? In the past, you said Protonmail is exempt from this as its too small. Would be interesting to know if this is still the case?
Re: Tutanota is now Tuta
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can find the comparison table here: https://proton.me/mail/proton-mail-vs-tutanota .
Or here: https://tuta.com/protonmail About your comparison: Why exactly do you believe Switzerland is better in terms of data protection than Germany? Do you not need to share data with the US as well upon request? The good thing - in both countries - is that it has legal oversight, besides the data on our servers is encrypted so we don't really see the location benefit here. And what about data retention laws in Swi…
Regarding data retention, Proton won in Swiss court in 2021: https://proton.me/blog/court-strengthens-email-privacy.
Re: Tutanota is now Tuta
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where can I read more about the sketchy boards hosted by the admin?
As stated by Le Monde[1] Kohlchan was hosted on OvO Systems, which was owned by Vincent Canfield. If you can't read the end of the article due to the paywall, you can use the reader mode of Firefox. You can also see that cock.li is hosted on OvO Systems on the footer. [1] https://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2019/10/11/derriere-l-...
From what I understand OvO Systems runs a VPS host (cockbox.org) and after Krautchan shut down, Bernd rented a VPS on cockbox (since they allow anonymous payments) to host a Krautchan successor named Kolchan. So yes, OvO Systems hosts it, but the admin is not actively involved, similar to how the Hetzner admins aren’t involved in Plex movie warez services being hosted on Hetzner dedis.
Cock.li on the other hand is run by the OvO systems owner himself.
Re: Tutanota is now Tuta
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or here: https://tuta.com/protonmail About your comparison: Why exactly do you believe Switzerland is better in terms of data protection than Germany? Do you not need to share data with the US as well upon request? The good thing - in both countries - is that it has legal oversight, besides the data on our servers is encrypted so we don't really see the location benefit here. And what about data retention laws in Swi…
Regarding data retention, Proton won in Swiss court in 2021: https://proton.me/blog/court-strengthens-email-privacy .
That's nice, well done!
Re: Tutanota is now Tuta
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same here, the search was horrible and eventually caused me to move away. Using mailbox.org is a much more pleasant experience. Other options: https://www.privacytools.io/privacy-email
> Other options: https://www.privacytools.io/privacy-email Just so you know the original team behind that site moved to https://www.privacyguides.org/en/email/ We don't list StartMail because it's not really zero knowledge (if you look at their "vault" system it's basically a LUKS container which is "opened" when you login server side). The author of PTIO puts no effort into reviewing/reading or understanding how any…
Interesting, thanks for the heads up, this has somehow passed me by. I loved privacytools.io in its prime, I think reputable sources for this kind of information must exist. I'll look into privacyguides.org as a replacement for it.
Re: Tutanota is now Tuta
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone could have registered an account with the name "Tutanota". It does not make sense to converse.
The account is 8 years old and did a 'Show HN' of the service.
Right. I didn't research the account too well, my bad. However the account also has little karma and this triggered my suspicions (shrugs).
Trust in accounts like Tutanota seems to be rather informal. Perhaps it works anyway.