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How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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>Recent estimates suggest a staggering 815m children—one in three of the global total—have been poisoned by the metal. This is insane, hard to believe tumeric is the main culprit. But then again lots of these children probsbly live in India, where the leadtumeric seems to be most popular.

lead paint is the other big culprit.

For those looking to hasten the end of lead poisoning, the Lead Exposure Elimination Project (https://leadelimination.org/) does great work.

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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> The British Empire might have disappeared but a segment of the English elite continue to believe that the former colonies must be run based on ideas that emerge from their superior intellect. Everyone and their dog knows that lead is dangerous. You don't need to have a "superior intellect" to realize this. > Most governments in Africa, Asia and South America must have first hand experience with why (and how) NGOs a…

> Everyone and their dog knows that lead is dangerous.

If the article were truly written by someone whose heart bleeds for those suffering from lead poisoning in the Indian subcontinent, they would restrict themselves to that single issue. These potshots at the leaders together with the emphasis on "foreign expertise" and ""effective NGOs" shows two things:

- the colonial supremacist mindset is alive and well. It is merely adopted a new form conducive to this era.

- NGO-fronted regime change operations are not doing so well in this part of the world.

> Most of these governments are corrupt to the bone.

As are most governments in the West. Lobbying and campaign contributions is bribery by another name.

Parts of every Western power center are for sale at the right price. That does not mean that it is acceptable for their enemies to initiate regime change operations in these places.

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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On a related and lighter hearted note, back in the beginning of the 20th century the government of Hungary once mandated adding the pH indicator phenylphthalein to locally produced wine as a way to mark its origin for tax purposes. The compound is tasteless and clear at the acidic pH of wines, but would turn bright pink with some alkali added. Sounds ideal right? However soon people started to complain that the wine…

I was at an all-boys boarding school in the 70s when a bottle of phenylphthalein went missing. They shut the whole school down until it reappeared (it was left on the windowsill of a teacher's house IIRC). No idea what the culprit was intending to do with it. Put it in the tea urn and try to make the whole school shit itself to death?

Vanishing fake blood?

I'm way more curious about the reason for the harsh reaction from the school.

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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post #56

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On a related and lighter hearted note, back in the beginning of the 20th century the government of Hungary once mandated adding the pH indicator phenylphthalein to locally produced wine as a way to mark its origin for tax purposes. The compound is tasteless and clear at the acidic pH of wines, but would turn bright pink with some alkali added. Sounds ideal right? However soon people started to complain that the wine…

I was at an all-boys boarding school in the 70s when a bottle of phenylphthalein went missing. They shut the whole school down until it reappeared (it was left on the windowsill of a teacher's house IIRC). No idea what the culprit was intending to do with it. Put it in the tea urn and try to make the whole school shit itself to death?

"...a bottle of phenylphthalein went missing"

Uh? What was the big deal? We had bottles of phenylphthalein in the school lab and no one cared a damn about it or whether any went missing because it was so commonly available and so cheap. And most of us had phenylphthalein at home in our medicine chests in name of Ford Pills. When TV ads told us to take it to 'keep fit and regular' it was just something one was used to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBPWt4OQ-RY

BTW, when I wanted an indicator at home for my chemistry set (in the days when they made 'real' sets with chemicals that actually did things) I just went to the medicine chest got the Ford Pills out and crushed them (they were a brownish color inside) but the additives usually weren't a problem, the indicator still worked fine.

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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why you gotta generalize a whole country like that? ever think of how an indian teenager might feel when they read your comment? Anyway, Adulteration is just simply ignorance and self-centered greed. People will indirectly harm anyone if it means making profits. We have already seen this during Covid. That people will not follow safety practices like wearing masks and even rioting to remove the lockdown. Was it becau…

Should facts about a country be ignored because they paint it in a less positive light and some citizens might not feel great about that? Only 16.7%, decreasing, of people in India think “most people in my country can be trusted.” However in Norway it’s 73.7%, increasing. Should we never talk about GDP per capita discrepancies? First step in addressing these issues is acknowledging there may be a problem. https://our…

Do you really believe the GP's comment follows from that statistic you pointed out?

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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why you gotta generalize a whole country like that? ever think of how an indian teenager might feel when they read your comment? Anyway, Adulteration is just simply ignorance and self-centered greed. People will indirectly harm anyone if it means making profits. We have already seen this during Covid. That people will not follow safety practices like wearing masks and even rioting to remove the lockdown. Was it becau…

People often forget that developed countries have already done all that before becoming what they are today (the US itself has a very long history of poisoning its population for profit, both the private sector and the government): https://www.npr.org/2019/01/20/685821214/before-black-lung-t...

The food industry was the wild west back then. I remember reading about a study in the early 1900s where one company’s canned peas was found to have no actual peas in it. And Britain still has a bread minister (its now ceremonial) whose job ot was to ensure no additives in wheat like chaulk or plaster.

Without regulations you would have to depend on your local relationships or branding to make sure your food is clean. Globalization makes it easier to ignore the needs of others due to distance.

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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i've always felt economist is always anti-asian, particularly anti-indian.

Yes I’ve seen the same in the last several years and hence why I stopped reading them

they're also very britain can tell the US how to run the US better than the US can, since time began, and it's kind of boring.

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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why you gotta generalize a whole country like that? ever think of how an indian teenager might feel when they read your comment? Anyway, Adulteration is just simply ignorance and self-centered greed. People will indirectly harm anyone if it means making profits. We have already seen this during Covid. That people will not follow safety practices like wearing masks and even rioting to remove the lockdown. Was it becau…

Should facts about a country be ignored because they paint it in a less positive light and some citizens might not feel great about that? Only 16.7%, decreasing, of people in India think “most people in my country can be trusted.” However in Norway it’s 73.7%, increasing. Should we never talk about GDP per capita discrepancies? First step in addressing these issues is acknowledging there may be a problem. https://our…

I think its about government regulation on food more than anything else.

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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why you gotta generalize a whole country like that? ever think of how an indian teenager might feel when they read your comment? Anyway, Adulteration is just simply ignorance and self-centered greed. People will indirectly harm anyone if it means making profits. We have already seen this during Covid. That people will not follow safety practices like wearing masks and even rioting to remove the lockdown. Was it becau…

Should facts about a country be ignored because they paint it in a less positive light and some citizens might not feel great about that? Only 16.7%, decreasing, of people in India think “most people in my country can be trusted.” However in Norway it’s 73.7%, increasing. Should we never talk about GDP per capita discrepancies? First step in addressing these issues is acknowledging there may be a problem. https://our…

No but presenting something as a result of “low trust society” is just lazy. We have plenty of examples of what’s being accused of here in the US. Monsanto poisons the country with Roundup, Big Pharma poisons the country with addictive drugs, Fracking poisons drinking water for millions, etc. But somehow that’s never a result of a “low trust society” because it’s not in a developing country.
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