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> He made the biggest mistake you can make in America, he stole money from the rich No, he stole from millions of ordinary Americans. The reason we keep running into this is people take jokes like yours as serious tropes, and then filch from ordinary voters.
Well... this is justice. Sadly, we don't get to see justice very often. This is life in prison, correct? I know he hasn't been sentenced but all counts is easily several life sentences at the federal level. When do the parents go on trial? I can't see how they make it out of this without at least having all their ill-begotten assets stripped.
Have all of the people scammed been brought whole? That would be justice. Someone sitting in jail isn't justice. It is punishment for his actions. I've never understood how someone being incarcerated has become considered justice.
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> He made the biggest mistake you can make in America, he stole money from the rich No, he stole from millions of ordinary Americans. The reason we keep running into this is people take jokes like yours as serious tropes, and then filch from ordinary voters.
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Imagine sitting in a prison cell, for 5 months, having no idea how long you will be there. That sounds almost worse than knowing your sentence. At the end of the day he deserves everything he's getting
Are we sure that he'll be locked up waiting for sentencing?
So yeah. I'm pretty sure he's getting the slammer while waiting for sentencing.
Well... this is justice. Sadly, we don't get to see justice very often. This is life in prison, correct? I know he hasn't been sentenced but all counts is easily several life sentences at the federal level. When do the parents go on trial? I can't see how they make it out of this without at least having all their ill-begotten assets stripped.
That’s not how sentencing works. You can’t just add up the counts and get a number. Federal sentencing involves a Byzantine process, starting with the federal sentencing guidelines. I am not even going to attempt to wade into that since it makes even federal criminal lawyers get twitchy. That said, Ken White (a.k.a. Popehat) has suggested the time in prison would be substantial . So if/when he gets out, he’ll be elde…
In what way? Deciding the sentence may be complicated, sure; mostly due to the fact that the US system (ideally) wants to be lenient on first-time or very occasional offenders and strict on habitual offenders. (Which isn't always how it works, sadly, due to judge biases)
However, once you receive your sentence, it's relatively simple. You get a charge or multiple charges with a length of stay and an eligibility for parole condition. It then gets marked "concurrent" (time in prison, after the sentencing date, for other crimes counts towards its requirements) or "consecutive" (its time needs to be served independent of other charges). From there, you start with all of the consecutive terms lined up in order of severity and the concurrent ones stacked alongside.
There are sometimes other terms for release, but they're usually enumerated pretty well.
That all being to say, your answer doesn't really answer the person who's asking. It's relatively easy to figure out the release date and minimum parole date from that. In fact, both are usually listed clearly on their sentencing documents.
I'm not too familiar with the American system, could someone please explain how after the verdict does the sentencing work? The judge is the one who will now decide the sentence? And how long does that decision take, so when will we know what the consequences of the guilty verdict actually are? (For example, how many years in prison, or not).
Well... this is justice. Sadly, we don't get to see justice very often. This is life in prison, correct? I know he hasn't been sentenced but all counts is easily several life sentences at the federal level. When do the parents go on trial? I can't see how they make it out of this without at least having all their ill-begotten assets stripped.
How did the other FTX kids get away with it so easy? It feels like prosecutors gave them deals too generous just to get SBF convicted more easily.
Well... this is justice. Sadly, we don't get to see justice very often. This is life in prison, correct? I know he hasn't been sentenced but all counts is easily several life sentences at the federal level. When do the parents go on trial? I can't see how they make it out of this without at least having all their ill-begotten assets stripped.
Under a punitive justice system like we have in the US—sure. It doesn't seem to have improved anything at first glance, though.
Well... this is justice. Sadly, we don't get to see justice very often. This is life in prison, correct? I know he hasn't been sentenced but all counts is easily several life sentences at the federal level. When do the parents go on trial? I can't see how they make it out of this without at least having all their ill-begotten assets stripped.
Is it Justice? Who is being made whole? What wrong is being made right? Because it doesn't look like justice. It looks like revenge. The US justice system doesn't mete out justice, it provides revenge.
Well... this is justice. Sadly, we don't get to see justice very often. This is life in prison, correct? I know he hasn't been sentenced but all counts is easily several life sentences at the federal level. When do the parents go on trial? I can't see how they make it out of this without at least having all their ill-begotten assets stripped.
Have all of the people scammed been brought whole? That would be justice. Someone sitting in jail isn't justice. It is punishment for his actions. I've never understood how someone being incarcerated has become considered justice.